Dr. Performance Power Module

[MaxTorque]

Like many of you I got tired of waiting for TST and Edge to get their products on the market and found that the power on my 03 did not match that of my 01 with 275 injectors and the Edge EZ.

I called Dr. Performance and talked to him personally about his products. I decided to try his Predator on my 3500 DRW, 03 HO six speed. It is advertised at giving 90 H. P. and 120 ft. lb. of torque and comes with a no questions asked 30 day warrenty. It sells for $395. It plugs into the rail pressure port but according to Dr. Performance it does not raise rail pressure above the factory 2300 lb. but does provide a more uniform pressure. I have had it installed for several weeks now with a combination of driving both under load and empty. I can report that it really livens up the truck. It makes a really good truck much better. It does not set any codes and I could not perceive any increase in EGTs. Further my no load gas mileage (calculated) on the first two tanks increased from about 16. 5 to 17. 5. Better than I have ever had. In addition under load Mileage was as good or 1/2 mi. per gal better. For those of you that just want a device to increase the pulling power of your rig and make it more driveable I think the Dr. Performance Predator is certainly worth considering.

 

[gonzo2]

What about smoke?

 

[KLockliear]

Besides the rail pressure sensor, what else does it connect to?

 

[Mopar_Mudder]

So why didn't you get the Edge EZ, it adds 200 ft. lb. which would be much more usefull them the 120... ... . about the same price too

 

[MaxTorque]

Originally posted by KLockliear

Besides the rail pressure sensor, what else does it connect to?

It only connects to the rail sensor port. You simply disconnect the connector at the port and place the predator in line.

 

[MaxTorque]

Originally posted by Mopar_Mudder

So why didn't you get the Edge EZ, it adds 200 ft. lb. which would be much more usefull them the 120... ... . about the same price too

I did not get the Edge Ez because it is my understanding that it raises the rail pressure from the factory 23000psi to about 29000psi. The HP/Torque improvement w/ the Predator really livens the truck up. I may upgrade to the TST or Edge EZ if they get the bugs worke out of their timing/pulse width modules. Edge still is not on the market w/ their timing device.

 

[KLockliear]

Does it also plug into the MAP sensor (about 4 inches back and to the left)? The EZ plugs in and modifies the rail pressure. The box you have is doing the same thing.



If it is truely giving 90hp gain, it is manipulating rail pressure even MORE than the EZ. The EZ makes 65-70hp on the dyno. To make more power with just rail pressure, it has to turn it up further.

 

[dieselpilot1969]

Originally posted by KLockliear

Does it also plug into the MAP sensor (about 4 inches back and to the left)? The EZ plugs in and modifies the rail pressure. The box you have is doing the same thing.



If it is truely giving 90hp gain, it is manipulating rail pressure even MORE than the EZ. The EZ makes 65-70hp on the dyno. To make more power with just rail pressure, it has to turn it up further.

Really, how else you gonna get those kinda ponies?

 

[Tomeygun]

Originally posted by dieselpilot1969

Really, how else you gonna get those kinda ponies?

I good question is why is the HP vs torq relationship not the same as the EZ, 90 hp , but only 120 torq?



hmmm... it must come on VERY late

 

[KLockliear]

Originally posted by dieselpilot1969

Really, how else you gonna get those kinda ponies?

Electrically, it can only be done with rail pressure or by adjusting the timing/pulsewidth of the injector pulse itself. Of course, injectors can give more power too.

 

[Greg Boardman-RIP]

All I gotta say is Dr. P

 

[dieselpilot1969]

like dr. pepper?

 

[MUDDY]

max trq sez''It is advertised at giving 90 H. P. and 120 ft. lb. of torque '



so in all actuality it should give 45 hp and 60 lb ft tq asuming the dr lies as much as he did in the past

 

[SteveH]

YUP, I figured somebody would have to step in and start badmouthing DR P. Seems like some folks can't take his straight forwardness. If you don't like his product, don't buy it. Some of us have used them for years without problems and they perform great. Doesn't mean Dan has lied about anything. He stands behind his products as good as anyone. Will the DR P bashing ever end??

Steve H.

 

[Greg Boardman-RIP]

Originally posted by SteveH

YUP, I figured somebody would have to step in and start badmouthing DR P. Seems like some folks can't take his straight forwardness. If you don't like his product, don't buy it. Some of us have used them for years without problems and they perform great. Doesn't mean Dan has lied about anything. He stands behind his products as good as anyone. Will the DR P bashing ever end??

Steve H.

All I said was Dr. P



Performance is in the eye of the beholder!!!!

 

[MUDDY]

Originally posted by SteveH

YUP, I figured somebody would have to step in and start badmouthing DR P. Seems like some folks can't take his straight forwardness. If you don't like his product, don't buy it. Some of us have used them for years without problems and they perform great. Doesn't mean Dan has lied about anything. He stands behind his products as good as anyone. Will the DR P bashing ever end??

Steve H.

straight forwardness,,,,my --s

seems like the guy is a freakin crook. i wont buy the product,,,,again. he lies about the gain of power. overcharges unsuspecting people. and acording to many is a plain ass.



apparently you aint read about my expierience with the dr p phase 2 kit. advetised to gain 200 lb ft tq yet had less pulling ability than items[ tm ecm and 275s] that gained approx 120 lb ft tq. [on the same truck lost 7 mph on hill]. the dr is a slick talkin pervaricator and cant be trusted. this is the opinion of many people. it seems he demonstrates a phase 3 truck and tells a dealer its a phase 2 just to impress em enuff to sign up for a franchise



and the 12v upgrades,,,,,,,he falsly advertises there too. selling used and wore out parts that have been modified. i heard with my own earsof the stuff he pulls by a very credible former employee. it appears the dr is illegal and imoral



i know nuthin of this 3g module. but i do know i wont buy any product that is manufactured by the crook, even if it was proven to be the best module offered for sale at a very resonable price, only because it is a dr p product. hell,,,i speak about the good products i have had. i will also speak of the garbage i have had



how about the way he advertised his mods add power w/o adding fuel. huh,,,wth. ???



yeah,,,,,,,,,,,,and his mods dont require adding a pyro. yeah rite





outpull, outdrag, outrun any other modified truck. :-laf



i will bad mouth dr. p till the end of time. maybe someone will hear and avoid the dr and avoid being ripped off. i wish i was a tdr member and someone wouldve educated me way back then. 200 lb ft tq advertised which was prolly actually half that for the grand total of 2495. 00 retail cost. 5 times the cost of an ez which adds an honest 180 lb ft tq



there are several other vendors that build a good product and are trustworthy so ya dont need to waste dollars on an inferior product from dr. p

 

[Greg Boardman-RIP]

Thanks Muddy,

Well said!!!!!!:--)

 

[SteveH]

Yes, I know Greg. I wasn't talking about you. The post above yours calls Dan a lier and that is who I was referring to. We should be a little above juvenile name calling on the TDR. Some choose to take the lower road and try to assinate someone's character and that is not what the TDR is all about.

Steve H.

 

[MUDDY]

well i said it b4,,,,,,,,,if they lie,,,,,,,they are a liar. if the steal,,they are a *******.



btw,,,,,,,,was dan the dude who made all the claims on the dr p advertising that stated their kit that in reality added approx 100 lb ft tq added 200 lb ft tq. if so,, he MAY be a liar. or at least be totally confused



taint nice to bare false witness or cheat folks





the tdr is about sharing information and helping other people. that is what i am trying to do here. share info about a product that was waaaaaaaaay overpriced and only gave half the tq increase they said it did and hopefully my expierience will help someone else make a better choice and choose a superior product for their rig



as i said,,,,,,,,,,,,we got lots of GOOD vendors to purchase performance products from. honest vendors. no need to visit dr p and be forced to bend over and grab your ankles

 

[DLeno]

I'm thinking that a little engagement of the gray matter would save many headache



We know that all the boxes in the field today are pressure boxes. all of them. (somebody correct me if there is a timing only box out there... ). Anyway, raising rail pressure is the most inexpensive way to obtain more power. Some of those pressure boxes are also timing (e. g. Bullydog), but none are pulse width. yes I know about TST -- I'm talking about production boxes currently installed in vehicles and being used.



I think some common sense would yield the very obvious conclusion that any low end medium HP box that plugs into the pressure port is a pressure box.



Exerting even more common sense, how would it be possible for a pressure box to deliver more peak HP than stock, and yet not raise rail pressure higher than stock? I think there is a chain being pulled here.