Dual Rear Wheels - RUST

[jelag]

My 04 now has 58K and was delivered in Nov of last year... .



We pulled the rear wheels today for tires and found the rear wheels rusted to the hubs... . We had to use a couple of hammers and drive the inside over the rust... . If I'd known this was going to be this bad... . I'd have done something during the first few weeks... .



Some wheels center on the axle with the lug nuts and others center on the axle with the center hole of the wheel... . like our trucks... .



I grabbed a flapper wheel once the wheel was off and cleaned it... and applied antiseize to both the hub, wheels and studs...



To save yourself some grief you might give this some attention... the guys in the tire shop had enough sense not to hit the wheels with the hammers, just pound on the tires..... but others might not...



Jim

 

[DanDee]

I noticed the same thing a week or so ago... . only my truck has less than 2k miles on it!



I was guessing it might be a problem down the road, so I basically did the same as you.

(See my post on 6/9)

https://www.turbodieselregister.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=104373





I did notice later that my owners manual says not to use any lube on the wheel studs... . however they seem to come oiled from the factory????

Maybe they could have put a little lube on the hub at the same time and saved everyone a lot of trouble later on!



DanDee

 

[John - K5AWO]

Clean that antiseize off of those studs!!!

You have altered the torque settings for the studs and I can guarantee you that you have over stressed the studs.



This is because by adding the antiseize, you have reduced the friction co. efficient. You are in danger of pulling threads right off the bolts.



I. E. , a bolt that takes 144 lb/ft of torque, with antiseize the actual effective torque on the studs increases approximately 15%-20%



I personally would not want to be riding in your truck. The rear wheels could come off, at the very least, get a bad wobble.



Opinion gathered from the dumbkoff class of '56... only I used real grease. Effect was the same. Don't do it.



It's okay on the hubs, keep it off the studs.

 

[DanDee]

John, that thought has occurred to me but how do you explain the factory lube?



It appears to be a heavy oil or light grease... . it was on every rear stud. (I haven't taken off the front wheels yet)



I picked my truck up from out of the dealers delivery bay less than 24 hrs after delivery.

In-fact they were still toweling it dry after the dealer prep... so I really doubt the dealer had time or would even bother pulling the wheels and lubing the studs, so I feel pretty sure it came from the factory lubed.



Now MAYBE the factory sets their torque guns to 20% less because of the lube... BUT they must know that the customer might re-torque his wheels as soon as its delivered... . and the customer is going to use the factory specs, as he or she should.

(which then would be 20% over because of the factory lube!)



Seems like a big liability for the factory..... IF in fact the studs are not designed to handle a 20% over torque...



Maybe someone in the business will throw a little light on this!



DanDee

 

[Ol'TrailDog]

My manual is over at the house, but I'm positive the 04 instructions were to add one drop of oil between the lugnut and lugnut flange dohickey (learned that word on one of the other threads tonight. )



Am I living on borrowed time.



Hokahey, its a good day to die.

 

[DanDee]

Correct... I remember the part about adding a drop or two of oil to the flange area where the washer connects to the lug nut, but that is just between the nut & washer.

I think this is where the manual states not to oil the threads... .



I'll look it up later tonight.



DanDee