dually tires?

[pstillo]

will 285-70/17 fit on a 03 dually??

 

[jelag]

I've looked at a lot of those tires... and there NOT load range E tires... . there load range D tires and won't handle the load if you tow... Ive got 50 K on my 04 and the back tires are about gone... .



Someone please find something other than the goodyears... . I checked about 3 weeks ago in WA, my home state and no tires yet from the other guys.....



Jim

 

[KCJackson]

Cooper makes an all-terrain LT235/80R17E, and the new OEM tire is General AmeriTrac

 

[doldenburg]

with generals you my as well plan on buying new tires right away. they are garbage. every one i had came apart.

 

[SOLER]

Jim, do you have the Goodyears on your '04? I'm betting you do since they are about the only ones that make this size that Dodge deals with. They are junk. Oh, by the way. If you got 50,000 miles out of them, then you should be somewhat content. They are only warrented for 50,000 miles. I'm not being a smart-alec, just pointing out what I found on their website. I know, I know, a dually should get better mileage. BUT, they're Goodyears. I, too, think they're junk, and am expecting to replace them sooner than I'd like.





Regarding load range. Load range E is betther than load range D. It's not rocket science. BUT, look at the actual numbers. They are rated at just over 3,000 lbs. I think dualled, the number is less just like every other tire. So, if you get 285/70's and look at the numbers, they will be real close to the Goodyear's. So, let's say they are 3085 lbs single, and 2750 lbs dualled. 2,750 times four is 11,000 lbs carrying capacity on your tires. That's a lot of weight, my friends. I seriously doubt you'll put that much weight on the back of your truck. And that's weight ON the rear tires, not what you are pulling behind you. So if your truck weighs 7,500 lbs, and you have a dually, you probably have about 2,500-3000 lbs on the rear when empty (I'm just guessing, I haven't weighed mine),and you hook up a 15,000 lbs trailer with a tongue weight that's 25% of that (that's a heavy tongue, I'm just doing worst case) then you still only have 6,750 lbs on the rear of your truck. If your tires are all inflated properly, you should have no problem.



Now, back to the original question. Will they fit without spacers?



SOLER

 

[Phrogger57]

tire size?

if the size (285/70R17) was posted correctly, they will not fit as a dually UNLESS you get spacers for the rear wheels- you will have to check for front clearances when turning. BTW I have 63k+ on my stock Goodyear Wrangler GS/A's and will get maybe 10k more- I'm very happy with them. Keep in mind that 95% of my mileage is straight down the Boulevard. -Eric

 

[jelag]

My 04 now has 54K and I'm afraid of the rear tires... . We pull a trailer that often will run 20-24K lbs... I don't want something that has less load rating... .



My Michlin dealer across the street called again... . no news... . My Michlin dealer offered to cap my casings... . with the long life tread I use on my F550 and 19. 5" that we get 90K miles per set... This is good for the back tires... but I'm not sure for steer tires...



I called Les Schwab, a 200 plus chain who just quoted 225 each for the goodyears and 142 for the generals but he thought the generals were backordered and were a load range D... . He's calling back... .



Do any of you have other ideas... . I looked for a 19. 5" steel wheel but they seem to have the wrong offset and don't seem to be close.....



Jim / Spokane WA

 

[1leg]

JeLag



Try this page for the 19. 5 rims



http://www.ricksontruck.com/



let me know if you get them.

 

[adsharpe]

You can use the single wheel E rated tires, especially the 245/70/17. they are a bit shorter than the 235. 80/17. There are E rated 265/70/17s out there. Might have to use a spacer with them, although I think there is a post here that indicates they don't need a spacer.



Problem with 285 (even 265) is the dually wheel is narrow.



Good luck

 

[KCJackson]

Originally posted by adsharpe Problem with 285 (even 265) is the dually wheel is narrow.

That's the key - the dually wheel only has a 6-inch nead width. No tire manufacturer recommends anything wider than a 235mm tire on a 6-inch wheel - use of anything wider on that rim will void some tires' warranties - it is considered misuse to put a tire on too narrow a wheel.

 

[jelag]

OK... . I found a local dealer who has ordered me 6 of General Ameritrac tires for $112. 00 each... . He called for me. . found them in a warehouse... . and said it would take 3 weeks on his stock order... .



I had a local re-capper look at them..... and he sent me to his tech in the recap shop..... Tech took one look at my Goodyear casings... ... (there not down to the tread wear indicators yet) said he never has had any luck with those casing... and wasn't sure he could put them in one of his molds... . He mostly does Bandag caps for UPS... ... finally said that he had a 50/50 chance of getting a good cap... ... so I said thanks but no thanks... at least he was honest with me... . and I ordered above... .

 

[Ol'TrailDog]

The company just got a SD F350 with BFGs and a SD F250 with General AmeriTracs. Compared to the Goodyear GSAs on my truck and the BFGs on the F350 I have noticed a remarkable amount of collecting gravel and spitting it at the truck. So, make sure you have the mudflaps, nerfies, rocker covers, or whatever else you need to protect your truck.



The price is very good. I got a quote a couple of months ago on the Coopers and was quoted $195. Since they were having a sale last weekend I checked - the price was $225 - some sale

 

[mbaston]

Cooper has three tires in our size now. One is a more aggressive mud and snow, a higway tread, and another all terrain. I am about to wear out my second set of goodyears and the Coopers will be the next tires on my truck. Generals might be cheaper, but with the miles I drive, I need reliable, tough long last tires. Coopers have always delivered in the past.

 

[pstillo]

Originally posted by mbaston

Cooper has three tires in our size now. One is a more aggressive mud and snow, a higway tread, and another all terrain. I am about to wear out my second set of goodyears and the Coopers will be the next tires on my truck. Generals might be cheaper, but with the miles I drive, I need reliable, tough long last tires. Coopers have always delivered in the past.

Where did you read this? Its not on the Cooper web site.

 

[Ol'TrailDog]

Its not on the Copper web site

Thats because its Cooper - wrong website



The Coops have been out since around the first of the year. The STs are the aggressive tread.

 

[doldenburg]

Lotsa luck with the generals you will need it. if they were 50. 00 each it still would be to much.