Dyno numbers

[Bigsaint]

Has anyone dyno'd a 2001. 5 ETH 3500 4x4 with the following: Edge EZ and a "hot" PE box, DD3 injectors. Right now I'm running with just the EZ box in. I will be installing a Mcleod clutch at the end of the month along with the injectors and the PE box. Just curious as to where I'll be in the area of HP/torque. The exhaust and turbo are stock for right now. Thanks in advance for any replys.

Scott W.

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[Bart Timothy]

Save your money on the PE box. Edge is not recommending it for the ETH. The EZ, DD3s and an HX40 turbo is a good way for you to go. We dynoed the PE with 275s about a month ago and found no extra power in levels 2 and 3 over level 1, which showed only a 25 horse gain. This was done on Edge's Mustang dyno which does a better job of measuring torque than the DynoJet. I doubt there'd be much difference in power increases of the PE over the DD3s vs the PE over 275s, and may actually be less. With the ETC engine -- it's a completely different story as its injection pump apparently is able to inject more fuel the the ETH pump.

[This message has been edited by Bart Timothy (edited 01-10-2001). ]

 

[Bigsaint]

If not dyno numbers, how about close "guesstimates". I did some quick addition of the advertised numbers : EZ-66 HP; PE-100 HP; DD3's-110 HP plus stock rating of 245 HP equal 521 HP minus 20% for the loss through the drivetrain equals 417 HP. Does this figure seem a little overly optimistic ? Anyone ?

Scott W.

 

[Bigsaint]

Thanks for the info Bart, but I already have the "hot" PE box. This was my first purchase that I made, prior to EZ box. I was under the immpression that it did work well with the ETH's, after reading several members posts on their experiences with same. I know that I'll have to upgrade to the HX40 turbo to realize the full potential of the injectors, as well as do something to the stock air filter. I was leaning towards the Psychotty set up. And then there's that stock exhaust.

Scott W.

 

[Bart Timothy]

I also made the same mistake last spring when nobody knew much about the ETH except that it doesn't respond as well to fueling boxes as the ETC. I'm thinking that with DD3s you'd probably just as well turn the PE off and save the stress it causes on the pump. As it was explained to me; fueling boxes increase stress on the pump by causing it to increase pressures, and injectors decrease stress (or pressure) by increasing volume.

 

[_Bill]

DD III's, HX 40 16cm turbo, 4" exhaust, boost module, and K$N = about 350 HP and 690 torque at the rear wheels on a ETH.

 

[BHORNER]

My ETH is completly stock except for the EZ and supplied boost elbo. These numbers are from dyno in Vagas. The HP is down about 10 because of altitude.

Stock HP 211. 2

EZ Edge 247. 1

Stick Tq Max 468 2200 RPM

EZ Tq 627 1800

Largest HP increase 1800 RPM Stock 130 EZ 215


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Barry Horner
Lake Forest
Orange County, Ca

2001, SLT+, ETH, 6 speed, White quad cab, short bed, Sport, 2wd , 3:54 anti spin, Camper Special with trailer tow, 16x8 Forged Aluminum with 265x75 tires, Fog lights, Audio controls steering wheel mounted, AM/FM cassette with CD, Travel Convenience group, Keyless entry with remote, Leather agate heated seats. Line-X bed liner. ARE LS 2 tonneau cover. Pillar mount boost and EGT. EDGE EZ and McLeod clutch.

[This message has been edited by BHORNERIS (edited 01-10-2001). ]

 

[Bart Timothy]

Hey Barry, Edge dynoed the new 250 horse PSD at 228 hp and the Duramax at 243 on their dyno which is 4200 ft altitude. Looks like in stock form the Fords and Chevs beat us in our stock form.

By the way, how is the McLeod working for you?

Bart

 

[Bigsaint]

Thanks Barry, that helps. Now, if you only had the injectors and PE box, I'd be set !!! I'm also curious on that Mcleod clutch, not to change the subject, how's the idle clatter that I've been reading about. Send me an e-mail if you don't want to re-post and if you have the time. Thanks to all for the replys.

Scott W.

 

[Mike Vonada]

Scott,
Forgot to mention in the e-mail. With Stage III,s 4" exhaust and the PE box I dynoed 349 hp and 728 lbs of torque. This with a stock clutch.

 

[Bigsaint]

Thanks Mike, I just received your e-mail.

Scott W.

 

[Old Nordby]

What did the stock PSD and stock Duramax post for torque numbers, just curious.

thanks, jon

 

[BHORNER]

BigSaint
Bart

The McCleod on my truck stutters a little getting out of the hole. I don;t know if it's getting better or I am learning how to launch better. There is more noise in nutural with the clutch out. There is also some vibration in direct (5th) with a six speed under hard excelleration. No matter how hard I have pushed it, it won't slip

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Barry Horner
Lake Forest
Orange County, Ca

2001, SLT+, ETH, 6 speed, White quad cab, short bed, Sport, 2wd , 3:54 anti spin, Camper Special with trailer tow, 16x8 Forged Aluminum with 265x75 tires, Fog lights, Audio controls steering wheel mounted, AM/FM cassette with CD, Travel Convenience group, Keyless entry with remote, Leather agate heated seats. Line-X bed liner. ARE LS 2 tonneau cover. Pillar mount boost and EGT. EDGE EZ and McLeod clutch.

 

[Bigsaint]

Thanks Barry, my Mcleod is going in at the end of the month, along with other "extras".

Scott W.

 

[Bart Timothy]

The Duramax torque for the chart in front of me was 422. 7 @ 3000 RPM on same run which showed max HP of 238. 8 @ 3000 RPM. I'll have to call Taylor for the PSD torque number.

The following are some ETH random testing numbers taken at 4200 ft on a Mustang dyno.

208 hp stcok
245 hp stock + EZ
260 hp stock + 275s
268 hp stcok + PE @ level 3
290 hp 275s + PE @ level 3
292 hp 275s + EZ
314 hp 275s + EZ + PE @ level 1
315 hp 275s + EZ + PE @ level 2
315 hp 275s + EZ + PE @ level 3

Question for Mike V. -- What did you do to your stock clutch to get it to hold at those hp numbers? Is your stocker still holding?

 

[Bigsaint]

Thanks for posting those numbers, Bart. That's exactly what I was looking for. Also, thanks for the "heads up" on the PE/EZ combo. Looks like I need to find a good home for the PE, I can't see hooking it up for just another 25 HP Vs. strain and the pump.

Scott W.

Forgot to add... Mike V. is now running with a Mcleod clutch.

[This message has been edited by Bigsaint (edited 01-13-2001). ]

 

[Cliffman]

I started with the hot PE and then added the DDIII's for pulling (ETH). Dynoed at 336. 8 with the stock clutch. Added the EZ at the Tulare truck pulls and my seat of the pants dyno says more than 25 HP. When I'm running with the PE in the off position I really like the advance timing that the EZ gives me, it's a great setup for pulling those heavy loads up those 6% grades. When I turn on the PE I can definitely feel a difference between all three levels. How much HP between all three levels I don’t know, but I can sure feel a difference. I think a dyno run is in order here #ad


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2001 Driftwood 3500 Quad Cab 4x4, Long Bed, 5. 9L HO Cummins Diesel (ETH), 6-Speed HD Manual (DEE) Loven the shift thing (Arrrrrh), 3:54, SLT+, 3. 54 Anti-Spin Axle, Camper Special Group, Trailer Tow Group, 18,000 LB 5th Wheel Hitch, Leather, Sliding Rear Window, BDs E-Brake, Rhino Liner (gray), Velvet ride shackles, cup smoothy, Power Edge box / EZ Box w/elbo, DD Stage III injectors, McLeod Dual Disk Clutch, K&N, SPA Gauges, Jardine Exhaust, 16cm turbo housing. Love the smell of diesel in the morning. Hope your watchen DC cuz every thing you see here is a big lie, Hehe.

 

[Bart Timothy]

Cliffman

You probably will feel differences between the PE settings because the fueling curves are different for each one. Fuel probably comes in earlier and stays on later with each sucessive setting and maybe that's what you feel. However the total amount of fuel which is able to be delivered is still limited by the VP44.

DD here I come.