Edge or Banks

[HowardC]

Hey guys, I've been doing some research on which controller to go with. I either want a Banks 6 gun or Edge Juice w/ Attitude. Any suggestions? :-{}

 

[brianv31]

Welcome to TDR, I really like my Edge Juice/Attitude. I've never owned anything Banks makes. Quite a few people who have used their stuff are of the opinion that the performance numbers get fluffed a little and the bang for your buck isn't quite as big with Banks.



Tell a little about your truck too.

 

[HowardC]

Hey thanks for the reply!!!! I was actually leaning toward the Edge but just wasn't sure yet. It seems to me that Banks is a little over priced too.

 

[mattymac]

Hey thanks for the reply!!!! I was actually leaning toward the Edge but just wasn't sure yet. It seems to me that Banks is a little over priced too.

Go with Edge!

 

[Joe Mc]

Hey Howard - Welcome to TDRland, I can see you are at the top of the slippery slope of bombing. Before you "Edge" up the power you might consider addressing your weak link - in your case the clutch - I can only speak of what I've seen on other applications and have learned here. My weak link was the auto trans - I DTT'd before I did any power mods. Anyway, there are a miriad of clutches out there - or you can "Edge" the power up and when the clutch bends south (Southbend I hear makes a great product) you can address it - if you can afford the down time.



I guess I really never replied to your question? I too like the Edge product but, can only speak on this particular product as it's what I chose after much research. I've learned that if you want more power go big the first goround and use what you can until you can use it all. Moral to this - "I should have got the Mach 4 sticks over the 1. 6s and then waited to use the power until I could afford a bigger turbo". But, I have no regrets - I probably would have melted something, other than pavement, with my heavy right foot without proper airflow. I "think" that Banks makes a good product too but, I can't speak firsthand - they are pricey and have lots of overhead to cover. As far as the HP rating being fluffed up - I've seen folks here that have had both Edge and Banks boxes and most prefer having an Edge over Banks. If you decide on Edge - get the comp box - I guess they make a comp for the 3rd gen? This way you have 25 levels to tune to your need/wants.



Good luck with the truck and the slippery bomb slope.

 

[HowardC]

Hey Joe, thanks for the information!!! I was a little concerned about the clutch issue but I really haven't done much research on which clutch to go with. I will definitely check out Southbend. I have decided that i will go with the Edge, but I have not heard of the comp box. I will see what I can find about it. Thanks again!!!



Man I tell you what... I dont see how I managed to own a Dodge so long and not know about TDR!!!! This is the best web site on the internet!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Graphic man]

Howard C

welcome aboard



fill out your "Sig" so we all know the Info on your rig (year) etc.



Edge all the way!!



Scott

 

[COWBOYDUALLY]

YEAH time to bomb

EDGE is the route i would go if i was spending your hard earned cash, welcome to TDR !!!!!!! have fun with the never ending thrist for power... . fill in your sig buddy... ... jeremy

 

[HowardC]

Well out of all the replies, I dont see one that says to go with the Banks. Edge it is!! Now comes the decision about the Juice or the Hot Juice and the A2 or the Attitude controller. There are just too many choices out there.

 

[HowardC]

I dont know why my singature isn't showing up on some of these. I have the signature block checked.

 

[JasonCzerak]

Well out of all the replies, I dont see one that says to go with the Banks. Edge it is!! Now comes the decision about the Juice or the Hot Juice and the A2 or the Attitude controller. There are just too many choices out there.

Your stock clutch will hold anything a Banks can toss at it, and anything the Edge box can toss at it, so long as you know how to drive a clutch correctly and limit the amount of slippage when driving day to day. Now, sled pulling or drag racing once a weeking, the stock clutch won't last very long.



I ran the reg. Juice for 20,000 miles easly. upgrade to the hot for about 10,000 and the stock clutch was fine (57,000) and I just opeted to replace it cuz I had some cash burning a hole in my pocket.



This is 99% unloaded travel tho.



Do you have the G65 or the NV5600 for a transmission? if you have the NV5600, your good to go to 450RWHP. If it's the G56, the flywheel may be a costly change if you with to put anything more the 400-450 to the ground.



And 3rd gens don't use "comp" boxes. The 3rd gen equivelent would be an Edge EZ or some sort of "pressure" box.



Stacking a pressure box will prolly be one way to slip a stock clutch since they will make crazy amounts of low end torque.



IMHO, the idea way to slowly upgrade a 3rd gen would be.



1. BOX: Edge, maybe hot juice program

2. Clutch: SBC FE, or some auto upgrade

3. FASS + Fuel pressure guage

4. Pressure box: Edge EZ



At this stage, the stock turbo will be at it's LIMITS, as in, if you push it, you could destroy it and break other things. so keep boost as close to 40psi as possible and no more.



5. Turbo(s) (depending on turbo, bigger exhaust)

6. Injectors,

6. 1 and logicly while it's apart, studs

6. 2 And if you plan on more then 60PSI fo boost, might wanna firering things.

7. Replace Edge with TST. Sell Edge juice, keep EZ.

8. Modded CP3



Might not be a bad idea to install the FP gueage sooner and see what' the lift pump it doing and move the FASS purchase up a notch. But I wouldn't add rail pressure until you have something to back up the CP3.



This will put you on a nice slippery road map to 700hp at the wheels.



But the second a 4000+ RPM kit comes out, it's moving to the top of the list for me.

 

[HowardC]

I honestly dont know which transmission I have, and to be quite honest with you I dont know where to find which one I have.

 

[JasonCzerak]

I honestly dont know which transmission I have, and to be quite honest with you I dont know where to find which one I have.

Is reverse top right, or to the left and I think bottom.



Should be on your sticker for the truck as well.

 

[HowardC]

Reverse is bottom right... I think. I say I think because it has been a long time since I have been in my truck. I am currently playing in this big sand box they call Iraq!!!

 

[JasonCzerak]

Reverse is bottom right... I think. I say I think because it has been a long time since I have been in my truck. I am currently playing in this big sand box they call Iraq!!!

That's gota suck, buying a new truck, and then sent over seas. That should be a reason to NOT go. At the very least, a way to extend a warrenty on things.

 

[HowardC]

Your not lying brother!!!! I have had my truck a year and I barely have 5k on it. Heck send me to war if I get married or have a baby, but for goodness sake dont send me when I have a new truck!!!!!!!!!!! :-laf

 

[Joe Mc]

Howard - Thanks for protecting my old infidel arse from the "iby dahs". Be safe out there brother.

 

[HowardC]

Thats what were here for buddy!!! This is my third time over here and it will probably not be my last. If it werent for the heat, I'd stay here year round!!!!

 

[BTighe]

have you checked out other boxes like the TST, quadzilla, or TS. just an idea. from what ive been reading the edge boxes seem to keep failing in the 04 and up rigs. not dure if they fixed it but id look into it more before paying up. what ever you choose good luck and stay safe out there dude!

 

[mattymac]

You have a G56 transmission. The NV5600's are up and to the right. It has a Dual mass flywheel, a bit more $$$ to upgrade the clutch. Get ahold of Southbend clutch Peter will set you up when you need it.