Engine/Transmission (1998.5 - 2002) Engine Oil

[CM_Guest]

I see what you are saying JR. I have not seen or read any failures on this site. The John Deere statement of 10k oil changes is interesting and there is nothing wrong with extended oil changes but I believe I read in the quarterly TDR mag not to use extended servicing with CJ oil. Wish they would just offer CI oil at Oreilly's, Auto Zone, Wal Mart etc. so we could just get back to arguing about who makes the best oil. LOL. Since Cat and John Deere are so close to the house I will still swing by and see what they have to offer.

Dave

That is NOT a John Deere recommendation. That is what I run between oil changes in my '94 2500. All John Deere oil change intervals are in ENGINE HOURS. Which is actually a much better unit of measure for service intervals. Using mileage doesn't make much sense when you can have a lot of engine idling between oil changes and not be putting any miles on. I've always meant to put an hour meter in my pickup and go by that, but 10,000 miles even at a 40 mph average is 250 hours. Deere Plus 50 II is good for 500-hour intervals with a Deere filter. And that's not 500 hours of part-throttle highway cruising in a pickup. That's 500 hours of full-load, rated speed WORK in 9.0-liter engines making 375 hp (935 lb.-ft. of torque at 2100 rpm) at the flywheel and 13.5-liter engines making 600 hp (1500 lb.-ft at 2100 rpm) at the flywheel. I THINK it will stand up to a B-series Cummins in a pickup.

 

[CM_Guest]

I'm just going to guess it's around $20 per gallon. It's been a long time since I actually got out my wallet and paid for any since I just tell the parts guys to put it on my parts account. But I think the last time I did pay for any, the whole oil change with a JD filter was around $70. It comes in 1-gallon, 2.5 gallon, 5-gallon, 30-gallon, 50-gallon and you can even get it in bulk. Most Deere dealers have an annual oil and filter sale and you can usually get some pretty good deals. It definitely isn't getting any cheaper, so it my make sense to buy a 30-gallon drum and have a couple years' worth. Because a BIG chunk of the cost of buying it in smaller quantities goes into the jugs or buckets. This is a complete GUESS, but I wouldn't be surprised if the difference between getting it in 5-gallon buckets and a 30-gallon drum is $3-$4 per gallon. And since most dealers these days have bulk oil for shop use and some even have bulk oil for delivery to big customers, you can probably take your own barrel or they may even have some and you can buy it for bulk price and get 30 or 50 gallons cheaper that way than buying it in the barrel. If they have oil-burning furnaces, which a lot of dealers do these days, you've also just found your waste oil disposal facility.

 

[SAndreasen]

John Deere doesn't have anything in ci 4 anymore the full synthetic was the old spec for a little while longer but the regular plus 50 II is cj 4 . I run plus 50 II ten thousand mile intervals always have good oil analysis . I have switched from the John Deere because I can buy shell rotella fully syn for the same price as the Deere think I'm even goina switch the tractors and combine over to the shell as well . Valvoline premium blue is avalible in five gallon in ci 4 spec I can't find the part number I just picked up a brochure for it at cummins the other day .