Ever hear of a toilet paper oil filter?

[Chipstien]

Originally posted by amsoilman

I hardly understand a statement like this! All Amsoil products can be shipped directly to wherever you want them shipped. Now I ask, how inconvenient can that be?



Now I am not flaming anyone, I'm just stating a very good feature in my mind.

Wayne

amsoilman

You wanna pay the shipping? If I buy one filter the shipping almost doubles the price. And no I do not want to buy a case of them... ... . I can hardly find the room to store the stuff I have now.

 

[rbattelle]

Originally posted by Chipstien

You wanna pay the shipping? If I buy one filter the shipping almost doubles the price. And no I do not want to buy a case of them... ... . I can hardly find the room to store the stuff I have now.

:-laf LOL. He's got you there, Wayne!:-laf

 

[amsoilman]

I don't think price was mentioned in any the above, I was just stateing the products could be shipped to any address!



Yes shipping does COST! We ALL pay for shipping of ANY product we purchase no matter where we purchase it, doesn't matter if you buy from the local store or wherever.





Wayne

amsoilman

 

[redram]

Originally posted by rbattelle

An interesting point about the disposal problem... one I had not considered until just now. Gary, what do you do with yours?



But I believe the "fatal flaw" in TP filters seems to be "channeling", which occurs if you don't use a tight-enough roll. The oil tends to form a few small passages through the TP, rather than soaking through the entire roll.



As for the fibers, I understand what you mean, redram, but it seems to me that as soon as the roll is wetted with oil, all those fibers will stick like glue in the TP. Any that do make it into solution will be picked up on the next pass through the full-flow filter.

Assuming that they don't get embedded into a journal bearing! The fibers would not routinely show up in spectrographic oil analysis - you would have to perform DRL / DRS or Ferrography (That's Direct Read Large / Small or magnetically aligning the oil passed over a magnet to look at the particles - ferrography). This is where you actually use a microscope and look at the particles in the oil. Spectrographic is looking at the light spectrum and intensity of the oil drops that are burned in a calibrated atmosphere.



I totally forgot about the potential for channelling.



Let's put something straight. I am not bashing this type of filtration. It can be a very effective form of filtration that can work extremely well (as documented by individuals here and by the sellers of these types of filters). I was only commenting on strengths and weaknesses and trying to be objective.



Adding this to your engine and taking the care in performing maintenance that Gary does is a lot better than using just a spin on full flow filter. I believe in and use a by-pass filter and in my position at work, I have seen the documentation that bypass filtration is a 'good thing' for virtually any diesel or heavily used engine of any size. The only reason it is not standard equipment on our engines is due to cost (IMHO). Not because they are not technically beneficial.



Take care and everyone have a safe holiday.



Cheers,

 

[Ralph Wood]

Originally posted by Crunch

I was helping out a coworker and discussing diesels at the same time. I got to talking about mine and mentioned that I use Fleetguard oil filters. He then told me that he wished "TP filters" were still in use. I asked him what it was, and he told me that it was literally a roll of toilet paper, and that it worked better than standard oil filters. He also told me that to change it you pulled out of the container, popped a new one in and added a quart of oil. Is he handing me a line, or were rolls of toilet paper really used as oil filters at one time? If they were, how good were they?

The toilet paper filters have been around in one form or other for 70 years or so. I have used them for 40 years. I am partial to the Motor Guard of Manteaca, California. I like the design of them. They all clean oil equally well. Motor Guard converted to industrial filtration about 25 years ago. I decided it was time to bring them back as an automotive filter.



Ralph