Everyone Gets What They Deserve

[Whitmore]

This is so so cool, some of you mave have seen my post on how a inconsiderate employee used a snow blower on the parking lot and threw gravel on several vehicles causing alot of damage, well the boss finally decided to fix the rigs so he had all of us go get some bids on the damage, we all turned in the bids and still havent been compensated yet after 3 full months because the plot has thickened , I am laughin my arse off, last week the boss was ready to write some checks and low and behold the inconsiderate employee comes into the office and reports that someone has stolen the snowblower,:{ well the boss thinks that we ( the ones with the damaged vehicles) may be to blame, he didnt say that but you sure could tell he was thinking it. so the whole plant has been laughing there arses off for 2 weeks now , where is the snow blower where is the snow blower???? and the company security big dog was up here in his jet and a report to H R and I heard a report with the local sheriff too so for the last 3 months the snow blower in general has been the hot hot topic and for the last few weeks it has been a total blow out :I think they need to change the snowblowers name to MONICA LAWINSKI as it has been nothing but trouble since day one, we owned it for 2 days when all this started :-{} The boss asked me if I knew anything about it and I told him if I had took it it would have been parked in you know whos arse hehehehe This is sooooo cool. Today was a real ringer, one of the other warehouse persons was up in the loft, (we call it fort knox ) where they store all the classified stuff, the only people that have keys are the 2 warehouse people, and guess what they found behind some boxes, YOU GUESSED IT ,MONICA LEWINSKI, reder than red and big teeth in the front where she does all the chewing and spitting. well the boss blew a gasket on the spot he is looking for the person or persons responsable and he wants heads, :{ I dont know how far they will go but they better be careful on pointing fingers , I hope they ask me to check my finger prints or do a lie test this would be too cool, I am in histerics and almost ready to peee in my britches , This is a secured area ???? fort knox???? oh my oh my bladder is going to bust

This is a 13 billion dollar company in termoil over a 500 buck blower ,what the hey I dont get it can someone please tell me I have gone off the deep end and should commit myself to the looney bin , pick me pick me pick me heheheheheh



As the gas plant turnsOo.

 

[Whitmore]

the best part I forgot

a few weeks ago when I took my bids in I was asked a few questions so I answered them honestly and then I made the coment that one of the things that bothers me most over this whole deal is the fact that nothing has been done to keep this from happening again!!!

Just before the famous Monica Lewinski went into hiding we had another snow storm and guess what??? yep the ol boy did it again only this time he only got one truck and the owner is livid , I guess I could of said told ya so but that would be salt in a wound ,



what ever happened to common sense :{



I just dont get it



:-{}

 

[illflem]

Makes you want to believe in karma

 

[Champane Flight]

Perfect...

Perfect, but did the guy have to use a shovel while the blower was missing?



At our plant we use the tractor to remove the snow and then put sand down. Last month we told the young hand to put a little sand down on the hill coming into the terminal. Usually I just put some sand in the bucket and throw some sand with a shovel. He used FIVE full buckets on the hill! We now have a dirt road! I mentioned it to the boss and he said that the new hand was going to be out there with a hand broom when it thawed! Kind of rough on the kid... ... ...

 

[me4osu]

Whitmore's snow blower

Gas Plant in Shoshoni? Who do you work for? I work for Hanover Compression, we have tons of iron in Wyoming.

 

[Sled Puller]

This, is a refreshing thread, please keep us updated!!!LOL!

 

[Rotty]

ROTFLMAO, This did put a smile on my face today!

I am still waiting for when the kid nails the bosses truck???

The stuff will really hit the fan then. hehheheheOo.

 

[Whitmore]

Gas plant in Shoshoni

me4osu, yes 38 miles east toward Casper near Lost Cabin is a huge pocket of sour gas that is 7 trillion cubic feet and owned by Burlington Resources, compisition is 66 % methane,18%co2 and and 14% h2s and is 400 degrese and is said to be some of the most challenging gas in the world to process they are very correct on the challenging part we are 6 months out on the start up of a world class plant 350 million dollar project that I am an inspector for the company and after start up I will go back as an operator... ... ... ... . Kevin

 

[JHansen]

Holy Cowboys-Talk About Sour!

Jesus man 14% H2S??????? I'm not fond of 100 ppm let alone that! Lots of CO2 too eh? So how do you get rid of that? Molecular sieve or what? Inquiring minds want to know! And what kind of iron are you running to move all that gas?



Pics would be cool man-I can't even fathom the scale of something like that. Makes our 4 little Ajaxes and fridge plant seem pretty small!



Jason

Sweet Forever!

 

[Sled Puller]

Suddenly, the last two posters started talking in a secret code.

The poor 'normal" gearheads are lost.

Will they be saved in time!?!



I understand, rocks, snowblower, paint.



I do not understand, Molecular sieve, 66 % methane,18%co2 and and 14% h2s and is 400 degrese.



Amazing the things you can come across on this site!



gene

 

[HiPerf360]

Gene... LOL

 

[JHansen]

Sorry Gene-sometimes I forget that not everyone is versed in oilfield lingo. H2S is the chemical formula (less the subscripts) for hydrogen sulfide. Bad bad bad stuff-I can't remember the exact #'s now but 1000 ppm is pretty much instant death for you-it shuts down your respiratory system. When you figure that 1% is 10000 ppm (parts per million) you're talking serious stuff at 14%!!! It knocks out your sense of smell too-you could walk in somewhere with a lethal level, take a sniff, then a second, figure it's gone, and then you are . Anybody who works in the 'patch learns to respect it-if you have at least 1/2 a working brain... . At least here in Alberta the OH&S ceiling is 10 ppm for 8 hours a day with 4 15 ppm exposures for 15 minutes at a time.



It's corrosive as all get out too-sour service stuff (be it pipe, fittings, valves etc) all has to be a higher grade steel to resist the effects of it..... bad stuff all the way around!



CO2 is just plain old carbon dioxide-you can't sell that with the gas (there's pipeline specs to be met for all sorts of things like CO2, H2S, minimum heating value, dewpoint etc). so you've got to separate it out. I've never personally seen a molecular sieve-but as near as I can figure it works like the name says-it filters out the stuff you don't want. I need to get somewhere that has a setup like this to check it out-this kind of stuff interests the he*& out of me... .



Jason

 

[forr]

Whitmore. .



Read your first post. Glad to see the boss is ready to reimburse all of you who had damage.



I can't believe the guy did it twice. Keep us up to date. Seems like things are getting to be fun at work... any bets on where Monica will be tomorrow???

 

[Sled Puller]

Jhansen,



I knew that.



Yea, I could break it down and figure out what the general stuff was, but putting it altogether is a different story.

Very, very interesting.



I also deduced that it was nasty stuff!! You guys work in that??



I cleaned hazardous waste up in the 80's, and it was no fun. I got out of it.



gene

 

[illflem]

Boy, if the H2S is as bad as you say I'd imagine that where Kevin works must have one heck of a safety system installed. Do they have to have breathing apparatus for everyone in case of an accident? Would they even have time? How far will the stuff spread if gets lose, will Wyoming become even more unpopulated?

 

[JHansen]

I dunno how things work down there Bill-but I'll offer a few semi-educated guesses based on how it's done up here.....



Willing to bet (although we won't know for sure until he pipes in) that the plant is set up for front-end sweetening-whatever system they're using to remove the H2S from the gas stream (probably an amine system) will be right at the plant inlet so the compressors won't have to see the H2S-prolongs their life quite a bit and makes things quite a bit safer in the plant itself. A plant of the magnitude we're talking about would have breathing air setups out the ying-yang-at the place I used to work we had a Scott pack for 2 crappy wells at 100 ppm-better safe than sorry. You pretty much have to wear it to do any maintenance etc. where the potential exists to release the gas-also backup men in case of emergency. Would be a pretty sophisticated detection system in place also. It'll disperse fairly quickly in the air-although it is heavier than air so it heads for low spots. Doesn't take too much though to get the rotten egg odor going-I think 1 ppm is detectable by the average person.



Before you would get a facility license for something like this up here, you'd have to jump a bunch of hurdles as far as public hearings, computer modeling of a worst-case release, permanent air-quality monitoring equipment, an airtight emergency response plan, and pretty much anything else you can think of. In fact you'd have a hard time convincing the AEUB (Alberta Energy and Utilities Board) of constructing something like this if there was an existing facility reasonably close that had capacity or could be upgraded to handle the extra volumes-they're trying to cut down on plant proliferation.



I do not like sour stuff much at all-we have a piddly little booster station that is sour due to solution gas from one of our nearby batteries. Not much-70 ppm-still not my idea of fun. Lots of nasty sour stuff close to us-not 14% although in my trucking days I hauled a load of oil that was 36% sour---I hated every second of it... . I'll stick to sweet stuff thank you very much-it pays the same and much more fun!



Jason



PS One more question Kevin-if you're using amine how are you getting rid of the acid gas? Injection???? Again inquiring minds want to know

 

[Champane Flight]

Any

We have air packs and air purifying masks at our place. We have more of a danger from Benzene than H2s. Although we do have H2s belt detectors for field use. Our Powder river line carries natural gas liquids from the Douglas Wyo. area to TX. Its main problem is Benzene. Dissapation of H2s or Bezene to safe levels depends on a lot of wind speed, no problem most of the time up there, huh?

 

[JHansen]

So you work for a pipeline outfit CF? There's quite a few HVP lines snaking their way through our fine province-in fact there's an ethane line within about 3 miles from where I'm typing this. Some of the gathering lines for condy over west would be sour I'm thinking-majority of stuff is sweet. Benzene never even entered my thought process-but you are right-it's bad stuff too-just doesn't get you quite as quick as H2S . The closest we get to worrying about it in my line of operations is BTEX emissions from the glycol dehydrators... . but there again you don't have to be a rocket scientist to know that breathing the fumes there can't do you a whole bunch of good!



And again you're right on the mark about wind speed and dissipation of the cloud. If you're sour enough to start smiting folks in the event of a boo-boo the EUB makes you do a bunch of fancy computer-modeled scenarios for dissipation. Whether or not the simulations would be accurate in the real world is up for debate-best to hope one never has to find out. Pretty lucky right here-we have pockets of isolated stuff with minor levels of H2S (under 250 ppm for the most part and mostly in solution gas at the batteries)-you've got to go 20 miles or so to get into the elevated levels.....



Jason

 

[me4osu]

H2S

Greetings from the lush paradise of Ft. Stockton, TX. :{ I have the good fortune to work here for the next day or two, now that I finished signing off on an SPCC in Carlsbad, NM.



My guess is that Whitmore works in a total immersion system. With 30 min SCBAs for ingress and egress. The worst I've been near is 5%, and I didn't like it. It wasn't a nice new plant, so we were taking things apart. Tri-gas detectors are your friend!!!!



Whitmore- I assume you have plenty of de-hydration upstream of the mol-sieves. With -0- moisture, you have no Hydrosulfuric acid, no Carbonic acid and no free hydrogen to cause embrittlement. Good luck operating that stuff. If it is wet and everything is carbon steel, have plenty of spare rings, packing, valve springs, dump valve seats, pipe, cooler coils, bourdon tubes, etc... ... ad infinitum.





I have a friend in Casper named Daron Gruner. He is VP of Compressor Leasing Services. Do you know him?

 

[Whitmore]

Holy cripes

You guys are full of all kinds of Q's, we went from snowblowing rocks on my poor truck to processing gas nothing new on the dumb dude other than he drives a crappy 78 trans-am and he doubled the value of it the other day when he filled er up with gas:{ , I will let you know more as i learn the details.

You guys are close on the process but let me give a briefe overview, like I say the temp of the inlet is 400 ferenhite and it is also very wet, yep we do 1700 bbl of h20 per 24 hr on each plant, We have 2 twin plants side by side with an inlet of 66 mmcfd thate makes sales of 45 mmcfd per train, the new world class train will be 250 mmcfd !!! anywho we drop the h2o off in the inlet seperators and do a cooling loop and filtration then right back into the seperators again, this gets the gas down to 250 degrees , the sour gas comes off the top of the seperator and into a contact cooler where more inlet h2o is cooled and comes over the top of the tower while the sour gas goes into the bottom, the gas leaves the the vessel at 100 degrees and is run thru a cintrifical seperator to get the last of the h2o, now we have alot of h2o issues here that go from total filtration to granual activated carbon treating and is safe and legal to discharge into the creek bed, DEQ monitors very closly, so the gas is dry but very sour when it enters process, we use a chemical solvent that is trade secret and I cant mention its name but it is specialy formulated for our process and costs 30 bucks per gallon and we have almost 1 million gallons on site, the new plant will take 3 million to fill so we have a h2s absorber and a flash drum and a huge stripper than we do a co2 absorber and 3 flash drums and the gas is sweet and ready to sell, but now we have all the acid gas to deal with so off all the strippers 4 total we feed 11 mmcfd to a reaction furnace and 3 reactors and reheaters and condensers where we convert it all to liquid sulfer , this is 95 % so we now have 5 % remains to deal with and thats where we have our amine unit , a scott clouse unit it absorbs the 5 % residule and strips it than it becomes a feed again to the RX, there are many support systems to all of this and is very labor intensive . Oh and the inlet psi from our wells is 1300 psi so we need no compression for that however , we do use compression off a slip stream for both the co2 and h2s absorbers as an enhansed recovery method and it works well, of course we have refrigeration and chillers for our processing fluid and the new compressor is a big 6800 HP electric 4 stage cintrifugal comp I think we will dim some lites in WYO when we fire that bad boy up. wow. our wells % total and drilling more can flow up to 60 mmcfd each and the pipeline feed like alot of our process piping ig 6 inch and 300 bucks per inch, CRIPES ALIVE ,we are drilling 3 or maybe 4 mor wells now, 2 of them are done and 1 or 2 are yet to come, it takes 1 year to drill them as they are 5 miles deep,25000 to 26000 feet and then of course the construction of the feed piping, it is a carbon steal line with an inkoneel lining, we also use alot of hastaloy metal too . before I was there they tried a load of stainless 316 packing in the h2s absorber and it lasted 2 days and became a pile of dust The safety at this plant is fantastic and there are double and tripple coverage on all angles just like you guys figured and yes at 10 ppm we don scba and fix the problem, I worked for 5 years prior to this in sweet gas and it was much more dangerous , old stuff and lack of maint. and I saw 6 fires in the plant, I aint seen any up here yet ,thats because we are extrimely cautious and respectful of equiptment anwhen we need more stuff we buy it!!!, I just witnessed last week the installation of 5 inkonelle electric spec blinds at 1 million bucks each and these are there for safety purposes, no holds barred, this company is willing to spend what it needs to to do the job right , I am very proud of their approach and professionalism but the thing that BLOWS ME AWAY is how in the heck can a 500 buck snow blower throw this place into such a tissie?????? man oh man I cant figger this one out::-{} one would think there was nothing better to do???