Exhaust Brakes?

[teamfish]

Thinking of buying an exhuast brake anyone running a PACBRAKE? Pros Cons?

 

[jelag]

Pro's...



Uses an electric air compressor... which you can add air horns and air bags if you wish... with air tank and air hose in the kit... . you can inflate small tires... etc. . Has a high retarding HP over the largest RPM range on the market today... don't have to worry about a special belt to buy as with the other brand... .



PacBrake was the first exhaust brake vendor to build the direct mount design for the dodge trucks we drive today... .



Interfaces with your 06 and automatic transmission for easy installation and function. . Your transmission and engine know when you've turned on the exhaust brake and the transmission holds up the TC pressure to pass the hp from the rear wheels to the engine... . very seamless function.....



I'm sure I've not listed all the pros. . and someone will help me... I really don't know of any cons... .



Hope this helps.....



BTW... I've got friends in Woodland... he runs a small engine repair there..... lives out of town... . a very nice place.....

 

[daytripper63]

Thinking of buying an exhuast brake anyone running a PACBRAKE? Pros Cons?

I ran a Pacbrake turbo mount type when I had the stock turbo and no complaints at all.

And since upgradeing my turbo I changed to a Pacbrake inline exhaust brake, I will say the 5 or 6 days that elapsed before I installed the inline model after changing turbos was heck, I have to say once you get used to having one you will NEVER want to go without.

I bought my first one (turbo mount type pacbrake) from TSTPRODUCTS and the latest one from TDR member JELAG and he was very helpful

Robert

 

[daytripper63]

I guess JELAG / Jim must have been responding the same time as I

By the way Jim the new brake is working great, thanks for the help

Robert

 

[teamfish]

Thanks this is what I was oping to hear, Is the install something that an average Mech. person can do?

 

[Road9]

Had one on my 95 2500 over 10 years. Now have one on new 2006 3500 I would not tow 5th in mt. west without it,Pacbrake works well so far NO problems! Rd9

 

[daytripper63]

Thanks this is what I was oping to hear, Is the install something that an average Mech. person can do?

Yes definetely, I installed both of mine. The turbo mount type I installed after work one evening and I do recommend that you remove the passenger side wheel well liner to make access to the install easier.

 

[teamfish]

Sounds like good advice thanks, I think it will be a good addition to my truck I don't tow real heavy but I live on a steep hill and replaced the brakes on my 01 yearly.

 

[Bob V]

I'm not too far away from you, if you need a hand or some advice let me know, I have done a few of these. Or, come to our Bomb party this weekend, http://www.nwbombers.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=26357

 

[BarlowCummins]

I am not just agreeing with everyone but I LOVE my PacBrake. It is the best and you wont ever regret getting one. I have some pics in my readers rigs, if you want to see one installed. They may not be the best pics but they are pics. One nice benefits of the PacBrake is the air compressor and air tank, they equaled air horns for me.



Corey

 

[PRawls]

Where do these actually mount? I was looking at the Banks only because it looked easier to install with their monster exhaust that I already have. Its 1 piece from the flange to the turbo.

 

[MAshley]

Pac brake installation is easy, unbolt cast iron elbow after turbo, toss in garage. . open box and install pacbrake elbow in the same location, hook up electrical and air lines, go for drive and learn how little you need the service brakes.



I tow at about 25,500 lbs I can go down any hill and hardly ever need to use my service brakes to stop. IT's really worth it if you tow, but even empty its cool,I use it all the time empty or loaded.



Dave

 

[p-Bar]

The jacobs would interface with your computer nicely, something to think about

 

[wcjp]

No problems with my turbo mount Pacbrake. Don't know how I towed without it.

 

[PRawls]

Pac brake installation is easy, unbolt cast iron elbow after turbo, toss in garage. . open box and install pacbrake elbow in the same location, hook up electrical and air lines, go for drive and learn how little you need the service brakes.



I tow at about 25,500 lbs I can go down any hill and hardly ever need to use my service brakes to stop. IT's really worth it if you tow, but even empty its cool,I use it all the time empty or loaded.



Dave

My Banks exhaust took that elbow out. Its all one piece from the turbo down to the flange.

 

[Bob V]

The jacobs would interface with your computer nicely, something to think about

The Pac-brake interfaces the same.

 

[TowPro]

I had a 98 24V that I put a BD on. I asked around TDR and bought the BD because "it had the most holding power". I feel it had to much braking power. When you let off the throttle people would almost run into you. There was no coasting down hills, you had to give it some fuel to keep the brake from slowing you down. I ended up hooking it to the brake pedel switch so it only came on with the brakes. I can recall a time or 2 in the stones when the back wheels would slide when the brake came on.



On my 06 I have a Jake, I feel its perfect. Its hooked to the computer and the only time I turn it off is when its snowing. Sure it don't "brake" as hard as the BD, but its more like engine braking instead of hard braking.



If you got a chance drive some trucks with the different brakes and see which one you like.

 

[WaltHess]

Does anyone still make a manual applied exhaust brake? I am talking about one where you have a choke style cable on the shifter (stick shift) operating it. Figure it would be a lot less expensive.

 

[nps]

Does anyone still make a manual applied exhaust brake? I am talking about one where you have a choke style cable on the shifter (stick shift) operating it. Figure it would be a lot less expensive.

I looked at building a manual brake for my 01. 5, but couldn't find a used butterfly valve anywhere.



Pricing out new parts to put it together was as much as buying a used brake from Bob Wagner.



With my 01. 5 6-speed I mounted a shifter switch to turn it on and off manually - bypassed the ECM completely. Really loved this setup. Only forgot to turn it off once - I was towing while trying to climb after just negotiating a descent and curve - thought my VP44 just went out with all the smoke and no power. :-laf



On my 06 auto I leave the switch on (puts it into tow/haul mode too) and let the ECM decide when to turn it on and off. The ECM will keep it on at a stop until the engine warms, then it will open the brake at a stop. They've got the ECM brake program down pretty good in my book.

 

[jelag]

Walt



Think about it..... most of the modern exhaust brakes are made to replace the existing elbow that is attached to the turbo... this design was first introduced by PacBrake and has several advantages... . easy to install, easy to calibrate, and has a very fast response time... very little pipe to fill and charge with 60 psi air.....



Lets assume that someone designed a cable operated brake..... with a push pull cable... I'm guessing it would take 3 times longer to engage or dis engage as well as take one hand off the other controls in the cab..... I personally would rather pay a few bucks more... . actually a lot more I'm sure... . but have the ease of operation... .



Just my 10 cents worth... ... One last thought... if you put your own kit together... . please, please test it with a gauge... . if you exceed the 60 psi back pressure on the newer engines there is a good chance that you'll have an exhaust valve push open at the wrong time... .



Jim