EZ box is great, trans seems to have a problem, HELP!

[Yo Hoot]

And remember...



If the tech isn't smart enough to see the box was there, he isn't smart enough to work on your truck.



There are exceptions. Some really good techs like mildly bombed trucks and help you out. But you need to know that before taking it in.

 

[2broke2smoke]

i have cleared codes with battery disconnect

with the help of a dodge dealership that actually installs boxes while keeping warranty ...



they said to have the lights and ignition on and disconnect the batterys overnight ... .



we tried and the next day they could not read any codes ...



but the radio still had the stations set



wifes truck was built 12/02, if that matters



good luck

 

[kcnizdodge]

Originally posted by RWarr

AGrady



I replied to you the other night when they were doing maintenance on the TDR site. Seems like my reply must have gotten zapped into cyberspace when they shut down the forums. I figured I'd try again since "better late than never".



The problem I experienced when I plugged in my Edge EZ is so similar to yours, I wanted to let you know what I've found out. When I plugged in the EZ and did a test drive the truck started to "buck and hesitate" at higher RPM range. I didn't get as high as you did though. Mine would go from 2800 - 3100 RPMs. I thought it was a fuel or air problem. I was surprised by the whole thing so I really didn't drive much except to get back home and immediately unplugged the EZ.



I installed a cold air kit a couple of days later and on the way home I wanted to try it out. I still had the EZ unplugged. The truck would hesitate and buck between each shift point. I also immediately threw an overboost code and check engine light came on. I HAD installed the boost elbow and with the EZ unplugged the ECM knew it.



I called the tech support guy at Edge and he basically said the truck needs to re-learn or re-program for the new power and driver input (as in I was mashing the go pedal). He said all would be well after putting some miles on the truck. I figured this was hog wash! He did tell me they would replace the unit if my problems persisted and I could eliminate the box as a possible cause of the problem.



After I talked to Edge, I realized I had probably never floored the go pedal at all before. I called a buddy of mine who is a die hard gear head and also a computer guru. He loves to play with ECM programs so things go really fast. He confirmed what Edge told me about the ECM "learning" to recognize a "typical" driving pattern for a vehicle. I'm not explaining as well as he can but the short version is it wasn't hog wash.



I plugged the EZ back in and went out and did a bunch of 0-70 MPH runs and could tell the hesitation and bucking seemed to be the transmission "hunting" for lockup at shift points. transmission just seemed to slip. My transmission has always shifted a litttle quirky since I put the 315s on. I haven't had the speedo calibrated for the change. I'm not very knowledgeable about trannys but I think this is all happening through the electronic controller on the transmission.



After a week of driving, seems like truck has "learned" very well!This electronic stuff amazes me!! The truck is running great and the transmission seems to be shifting like the transmission I knew pre EZ. I still think I want to get the recalibration done because I think it will help the shift points some. A transmission controller might be the ticket. I want to keep things stock there as long as I can also.



I did try to clear my over-boost code. I disconnected batteries completely, turned ignition to on and let set for about an hour. When I reconnected the batteries, the code and Check Engine Light were still there. There seems to be some uninterruptable power supply battery somewhere to maintain ECM memory! I had local parts store hook up a scanner to clear the code. Their scanner failed also but I'm hoping it is just a problem with that scanner. I'll try another one I know of.



Hopefully by now, your truck has reprogrammed also and you are a happy camper.



Roger

Roger,



Hey, you are totally RIGHT! I just kept punchin' the throttle and now it goes like blazes and shifts just like it did before I put the EZ in, only instead of shifting at 2800 rpm, it shifts at 3200 rpm just regular as clockwork!! Seems to be "learning" quite well. Looks like this is the answer.



I do think I am gonna get the OBDII scanner software and connector cable for my laptop so I can check, and if need be clear, codes on the truck. The one I am looking at will also calculate RW horspower and torque and give graphs showing what the engine is doing while you are driving. Cost is $109 with the cable and ODBII connector which I don't think is too bad.



Anyone out there ever heard of Digimoto? I have looked at a couple of sites and I think I like this one the best.



Thank you all for the help! You are a great bunch of guys and this site is so full of information I am amazed. You are all so willing to help each other out it is great!! Kinda like when I was a kid, you know, back when the air was clean and sex was dirty!! Those days!!



Alan



Oo.

 

[RWarr]

Good Deal Alan!!!



I'm glad to hear your truck is feeling better!



In regards to the OBDII programing, you can do a search in the forums and find some threads on what people are using if you haven't done that yet. I've got an older laptop that I dont use anymore and I think I'm going to do the same thing. I also looked at the Autoxray scanners and they look pretty good also. They come with all the connections to handle all of my vehicles. The newer ones will also deal with CANS or whatever the new on board diagnostics are for the next generation. The laptop software and cable are a cheaper way to go I think.



The kid thing - isn't it sweet. My truck runs so goooood now! I've even "raced" it twice this week. I'm tempted to run the EZ on Level 4 now! I have to keep telling myself NO, NO, NO, everytime I take off from the light. The bigger problem is I've opened Pandora's Box!! I see my wallet opening up and money flying out for more parts.



Roger

 

[kcnizdodge]

Originally posted by RWarr

Good Deal Alan!!!



I'm glad to hear your truck is feeling better!



In regards to the OBDII programing, you can do a search in the forums and find some threads on what people are using if you haven't done that yet. I've got an older laptop that I dont use anymore and I think I'm going to do the same thing. I also looked at the Autoxray scanners and they look pretty good also. They come with all the connections to handle all of my vehicles. The newer ones will also deal with CANS or whatever the new on board diagnostics are for the next generation. The laptop software and cable are a cheaper way to go I think.



The kid thing - isn't it sweet. My truck runs so goooood now! I've even "raced" it twice this week. I'm tempted to run the EZ on Level 4 now! I have to keep telling myself NO, NO, NO, everytime I take off from the light. The bigger problem is I've opened Pandora's Box!! I see my wallet opening up and money flying out for more parts.



Roger

Roger,



Yup, I am gonna have to get a part time job at McDonalds to pay for the truck parts!! Geeze, a hundred here, a couple hundred there, kinda adds up over the long haul!! Oh well, don't drink, don't smoke, don't chase wild women, sooooooo!!! Parts for the truck!!!



Guy has to do something or explode, right!! Works for me!!



Thanks again for the help. Yup, level 4 on the EZ looks better 'n' better!!



Alan

 

[Jeremiah]

Save these posts!

I hope these posts are saved, as they contain much valuable information.

 

[FDrake]

XcumminsX, wouldn't it just be eaisier to rent a truck for a month?

 

[turbinesurgun]

hey where do you find this cd manual for 7 bucks plus shipping gotta have 1 of those also where do you find the obdII cable and laptop software

 

[PatrickCampbell]

What you are describing happened to me once, the day afterI installed the Edge EZ.



After that it was fine. How about don't run the truck at WOT. You don't need to be hammering on the throttle (especially!) with a 47RE or revving above 3000 RPM anyway, so it doesn't matter much of the power drops off there.

 

[Franz-Diesel]

KCNIZDODGE ----I also have an '03 with a 47RE trans SO totally stock. I have had the same transmission slippage that you are referring to. The dealer called it a "flare up between shifts. " They rebuilt the trans with new torq converter and valve body and various other parts. still have the slippage but not all the time. they ended up telling me unless it does it during test drive with tech. there's nothing they can do.

 

[WStoops]

Let's see. You were really thinking of going to the dealer to tell them that your trans is acting up with an edge box? No offense, but what are you thinking?? Check all the posts about being your own warranty station. Good luck. Get your grandfather to take it in for you.

 

[Flores]

Roger,what price are you getting the autoxray for?

 

[kcnizdodge]

Originally posted by turbinesurgun

hey where do you find this cd manual for 7 bucks plus shipping gotta have 1 of those also where do you find the obdII cable and laptop software

I got the manual on CD off eBay for 7bucks with shipping. There were several out for bid when I got mine. As for the ODBII software, I just did a Google search for "odbII software". I think I am gonna get the digimoto software. Best price for the software, cables, and interface.

 

[kcnizdodge]

Originally posted by PatrickCampbell

What you are describing happened to me once, the day afterI installed the Edge EZ.



After that it was fine. How about don't run the truck at WOT. You don't need to be hammering on the throttle (especially!) with a 47RE or revving above 3000 RPM anyway, so it doesn't matter much of the power drops off there.

Well, cirumstances sometime come up where one NEEDS to go WOT and then it can be a really bad thing when the truck falls on its ass and you can't get out of the way. Tends to mess up your day something terrible. I don't do it often, but when the need is there, I want to know I can get motivated without worrying if the truck is gonna leave me sitting there waiting to get run over. Not everyone around her drives NICE.



Don't race, just wanna know I can do it if I have to. . .

 

[RWarr]

Originally posted by Flores

Roger,what price are you getting the autoxray for?

AutoXray 4000 - 6000 model scanners are generally between $300 to $600 depending on where but found many on ebay. I didn't get one since I decided to go with software and laptop connection so I can see a virtual dashboard like DLeno uses for experimenting with different boxes on the fueling box summary.



Good luck!