Engine/Transmission (1994 - 1998) Fake Cummins Engines

[DieselBuzz]

Check Cummins Northwest. Brand new ISBs for $6000. (What I should have done) They can't sell to you if you are out of their region but they will hook you up with the local branch. The peson I spoke to was very helpful.

ART

 

[Roger rodbolt]

DieselBuzz and Bill Lins,



The new surplus engines I was referring to were 1998 Dodge Cummins 12 valve engines, complete with all accessories and ready to drop for the Dodge assembly line. For best price I'd call Forrest Cunningham at 573-696-2200 of an evening. Tell him that the guy that got him his leather seats sent you for a good price. Forrest works daytime for Cummins Gateway Inc. in Columbia, Missouri and you can call him there also (he travels) at 573-449-3711. He is a local guru on high horsepower Cummins and runs his Diesel Performance business from his farm. It's not a big deal to convert a first generation Ram to the '94 thru '98. 4 engine, no electronics do deal with as far as I know. Gateway Cummins had twenty or so surplus engines this summer at the Columbia and St. Louis stores, but I've not had a reason to check as of late. Good luck. I wasn't aware of surplus ISB engines.



JWilliams3,



Thanks for the info on block casting, very interesting... ...

 

[DieselBuzz]

I had a dream that the people at Cummins were so grateful about me telling them about these immitations(sp?) that they gave me a new motor.

Instead I got an e-mail today saying that more than likely it was a Komatsu motor (which are made under the Cummins license)and it might even be a decent little engine regardless. Or it could be nothing like a Cummins at all.

Oh well

Art

 

[RoadGoesOnForever]

FYI, the 6BTA im rebuilding in school right now has a head made in Scotland and Chinese main and rod bearings.

 

[Lube Man]

My great web page



Hey guys, look around you. How many steel mills have closed in the U. S. in the last 30 years? How many shipyards? How many quality cars come in from the far east? The fact is that we are in a global economy and places like Japan, Korea, and now China make very high quality products. Sometimes of higher quality than the U. S.



My truck was built in Mexico. My friends was built here. Who had zero problems? Me. Who had transmission, brake, and front end problems? My friend. Some poor ******* in Mexico makes $8 an hour but he has a great job compared to his peers. The guy in the U. S. makes $30 an hour and complains he is underpaid and under appreciated. Who has the motivation to do quality work?



The U. S. leads in new technology and that's why Silicon Valley thrived for awhile. Then money managers figured the rest of the world could make our innovative products cheaper. But we can't complain. We still have one of tghe freest societies and individually most of us are better off than the previous generation. Thanks to those who gave their blood and/or lives on the sands of foreign shores.

 

[DieselBuzz]

Trivia

Where is the water pump and the fuel heater made on original '93 engines. No, it's not China, or any Pacific asian countries. I'll post the answer in a day or two.

Art

 

[DieselBuzz]

The fuel heater is made in Holland and the water pump is made in England. You have to look at the top of the heater when it is apart to see and on the pump it's on the bottom of the out side.

 

[rhoads]

of shore eng's

On a nother point what tax payer payed washington person/person's got what from what Co. for the loop hole that shut out US diesel eng's in our ride of choice???

Sorry TDR but it will take more hipe than you can muster to get one in my drive ,and us ford owners will return, wont be the first person that removed the mfg's eng and installed the cummins,,,Of course i'll have to take the seats out of my dodge and install also. Ford's seating went by the way side now, that i think about it was when " I" man left ford and went to chy. Or the other option is buy the new Modge remove the eng /transmission part out install the cummins and reap the profit's of high cost off shore parts that won't be there.

Just one person's thought's

Cost of owership ,serv,reliabilty,Cummins has it hands down and none of the frame work for the M eng is on this side of the water's edge. The may get a wall street type to buy the "M" but you will see the working person won over , return too _ _ _ _!!!!

 

[DieselBuzz]

Say what?

tdramrmbr,

I just don't understand. What are you trying to say?

 

[Don M]

He does not like the idea of a Mercedes engine in the Dodge truck.



I feel the same as him.



Don~

 

[rhoads]

Cookies

Don won the prize. one dozen cookies to him!!!

 

[PRout]

Just curious if this motor worked out or not...

 

[Tmartin000]

TTT

 

[redram]

Don't Fret Chinese Parts

On my trip to Beijing two years ago - they have many many M11's in the buses there. It's one of Cummins largest markets.



They also have Shanghai Buicks - look just like the Buicks made here in the states, but they are made in China.

I saw more VW Passats and Audi A6's in Beijing than I see in Houston - all made in China and of excellent build quality.



Just because the 'crank' is stamped 'Made in China' does not necessarily mean that it is of poor quality. Jump on the outfit that you bought it from for being misleading (hey the Chinese clearly identified the part - it was the shady American who screwed you potentially not the crank manufacturer.



We've become a 'world economy' and the US is becoming a 'service' economy due to our own success and greed.

 

[pepecat]

I don't know what kind of society we are any more. We can't go back to be a manufacturing nation with all the EPA rules and regs. China is a wastehole of toxic byproducts that come with major industrialization and manufacturing. Where will we end up? I don't know. We have to figure out some way to sustain productivity and commerce/trade with ourselves and the rest of the global market. I think evolving to the next level in tech is the only way we can survive.