Engine/Transmission (1998.5 - 2002) Falure rate for rebuilt VP-44's by specific rebuilders

[DCreed]

GARY- could this poll be modified to show if the wire was tapped? and thus the failure rate of tapped vs. untapped on the same builders?

 

[CSnyder]

I sell and install several pumps each year at my shop here in Iowa and from experience I can say that the "other" rebuilders do a much poorer job rebuilding them than lets say Industrial Injection. I have had a few guys call me up (mostly local farmers) and say hey I think my pump is out again can you check the warranty. 9 times out of 10 they will be 1 month out of warranty and only have 10K or less miles on the rebuilt pump I installed. Up until last Feb I installed pumps from an "other" rebuilder but switched to Industrial Injection pumps then and since then I have not had one single complaint on the pumps Ive installed. Not to mention Industrial Injections customer service. Personally I have been running an Industrial pump on my tapped truck and currently have over 200K on it and Im NOT easy on it at all! Im sure some of the other big name rebuilders have quality pumps too but for now Ill continue to sell Industrial Injection pumps because they never leave me hanging.

 

[Gary - K7GLD]

GARY- could this poll be modified to show if the wire was tapped? and thus the failure rate of tapped vs. untapped on the same builders?

This poll seems to have pretty well run it's course, and in *my* mind, shows that the later rebuilt VP-44's have quite well eliminated the problem areas the earlier ones had.



You might try another poll of your own design and interest, and see what additional info that provides?

 

[JLandry]

I sell and install several pumps each year at my shop here in Iowa and from experience I can say that the "other" rebuilders do a much poorer job rebuilding them than lets say Industrial Injection.

So aside from the higher cost, is obtaining a rebuilt VP44 through Dodge (Mopar) considered a bad choice as far as current rebuild quality and longevity are concerned?



Thanks,



John L.

 

[BigPapa]

I got no dog in this hunt since I run the properly valved Cummins, but I was talking to the owner of one of the local diesel performance shops the other day and he said that they have not had one VP fail when they also installed a FASS, AirDog, Raptor, etc. , so seems to me the majority of failures are due to lift pump failure or inadequacy.



Scott

 

[CSnyder]

So aside from the higher cost, is obtaining a rebuilt VP44 through Dodge (Mopar) considered a bad choice as far as current rebuild quality and longevity are concerned?



Thanks,



John L.

John, Im sure a Dodge reman pump is just fine but everyone has a preference.

 

[CSnyder]

I got no dog in this hunt since I run the properly valved Cummins, but I was talking to the owner of one of the local diesel performance shops the other day and he said that they have not had one VP fail when they also installed a FASS, AirDog, Raptor, etc. , so seems to me the majority of failures are due to lift pump failure or inadequacy.



Scott

Scott, you have the same thoughts I have on this. The worst part is trying to talk a farmer into a pusher pump versus a poor lift pump. All these guys see are dollar signs and get scared.

 

[DCreed]

maybe this is stupid/has been done but, could a simple relay be wired to a hobbs switch and shut off the motor if low lift pressure(sub 5psi) is sensed? As it would die anyway and kill the VP in the process.

 

[Gary - K7GLD]

maybe this is stupid/has been done but, could a simple relay be wired to a hobbs switch and shut off the motor if low lift pressure(sub 5psi) is sensed? As it would die anyway and kill the VP in the process.

Might not be the safest move if PSI was lost in heavy traffic or towing in traffic up a grade - at least USUALLY, you get enough warning to allow the engine to run and provide steering and brakes...



ON the other hand, some, including me, have installed Hobbs switches and alarms/lights to signal when PSI gets down to a preset level:



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