well no pics today but i will tomorrow its 4 inch from the stock cat to in front of the rear wheel i used a muffler from warpspeedperformance.com and put the louvers toward the back and welded it all up it sounds real good and you can really hear that turbo screamin now and best of all it cost me less then $175 to do it the downpipe will be coming when i get the dough and the time