finally the cp3's are out

[JStieger]

the nozzles are custom made if i remember right, dont know the material yet!

Don M's "Flux" style???

 

[Diesel Power]

the constant pressure on stage 1 is over 20,000psi and it will spike over 30,000 after a hard pass and letting out of it. stage 2 is even more, thats why we need to incorporate different injectors w/ these kits. these pumps are made for some serious power and will deliver it, there are certain things that have to be addressed to make it work more reliably and efficently. this is the list



fuel pump (95gmp min)

cp3 stage 1

rail cap(optional)

injectors 60HP or 80HP

now this is the min fuel requirements for the best results, that means you can stack and spray what ever and when ever, with complete confidence. remember you paid $40,000 for your truck---dont skimp out on the parts you need now!!



the stage 1 pumps look to be ready by friday, it all depends on testing, we are flowing them now, all pumps will come with flow charts--so you know you have a good pump. supplies will still be limited untill we get more cores in.

any one ready to put deposits on the pumps can call me mon-sat 9am-8pm est. :-laf

thanks

wade

NGM Diesel Performance

 

[Diesel Power]

One more question-



Is the front cover changed too if the CP3 gearing is changed to make the modded CP3?

no front cover changes needed, its a direct bolt on!! also no gearing changes thanks

 

[Diesel Power]

Don M's "Flux" style???

the injectors are not dons!! :-laf

 

[speedyjdl]

So if you are not speeding the pump up, then did you modify the barrels and plungers to get more flow?

 

[speedyjdl]

Also will a DD pusher pump be adequate enough for stage 1? I don't knonw the flow rate of the pump.

 

[Diesel Power]

So if you are not speeding the pump up, then did you modify the barrels and plungers to get more flow?

i cant get into what exactly is modded or not, but it is done right !! thanks :-laf

 

[Diesel Power]

Also will a DD pusher pump be adequate enough for stage 1? I don't knonw the flow rate of the pump.

you will probably be at the end of the rope with the DD set up, its flaow rate is about 75gmh. thanks

 

[Floor It]

The trucks need 150gph pump, if your running injectors too I would like the pump pressure to be raised to 40psi to the CP3 pump inlet.



John

 

[Diesel Power]

right, the cp3 needs alot of fuel to take in because it is putting alot out= the fass 150 with 40psi is best set up to have. !!

 

[Timbeaux38]

I noticed that you have only been a member since January, out of curiosity, how long have you been tinkreing with these pumps and such? You make pretty big claims, and we (I) know nothing of you and your background... ...



Not trying to flame, just curious

 

[Stefan Kondolay]

Wouldn't Don M injectors work? I seen that John Isaacs at Floor-it is running them and he is the one building these modified CP3's? I have customers that are asking because they have Don's injectors and they don't want to get another set.



Timbeaux, I talked with John at Floor it the other day and he is the one that building these so I confident that they are the real deal. He told me that he sent Barry at NADP a Stage 1 and it picked up a ton. But John has been testing since 03. Floor-It is the main guy so I would ask him questions as well.



After talking to Floor-It I'm thinking I need a 3rd gen. Oo.

 

[AK RAM]

That was my concern as well, but Don's tips are holding up just fine to the Stage III prototype (36,000psi+ constant) and no issues yet. Those considering the Stage I wouldn't have a worry at all for sure. At those pressures though, I'm not sure the tips should be your biggest concern.



Rumor mill also indicates a truck has been testing the Stage I for 8 months now with suspected DD EDMs (Italiano flavor) and no issues at all. Rumor mill.

 

[Diesel Power]

I noticed that you have only been a member since January, out of curiosity, how long have you been tinkreing with these pumps and such? You make pretty big claims, and we (I) know nothing of you and your background... ...



Not trying to flame, just curious

i've been working on diesels and other high performance engines for about 6 yrs as for as the pumps go its been about a year. berry at NADP has really helped get me more involved. and thanks to brady at II, and john and scott at floor it diesel, things are really looking better. thanks :-laf

 

[Diesel Power]

Wouldn't Don M injectors work? I seen that John Isaacs at Floor-it is running them and he is the one building these modified CP3's? I have customers that are asking because they have Don's injectors and they don't want to get another set.



Timbeaux, I talked with John at Floor it the other day and he is the one that building these so I confident that they are the real deal. He told me that he sent Barry at NADP a Stage 1 and it picked up a ton. But John has been testing since 03. Floor-It is the main guy so I would ask him questions as well.



After talking to Floor-It I'm thinking I need a 3rd gen. Oo.

as far as the injectors from dons i can't say first hand if they do or not but, for any injector that is not from us i would call and see if it is tested and rated for the possible pressures it might see!! so the best thing is to call dons or whoevers injectors you are running and see if they will handle this stage 1 pump. as for the stage 2 i know that as of now we are working on something better, the pressure is crazy!! the guys at floor it are busy working on the pumps and cant handle the volume of calls and constant questions, thats were i come in to relive the strain on floor it and NADP. that is when im not so busy :-laf stefan, you should make the move to a 3rd gen man its awsome!!! :-laf thanks

 

[Diesel Power]

That was my concern as well, but Don's tips are holding up just fine to the Stage III prototype (36,000psi+ constant) and no issues yet. Those considering the Stage I wouldn't have a worry at all for sure. At those pressures though, I'm not sure the tips should be your biggest concern.



Rumor mill also indicates a truck has been testing the Stage I for 8 months now with suspected DD EDMs (Italiano flavor) and no issues at all. Rumor mill.

just curious, who told you they had a stage three with don s injectors insalled, maybe they told me and i just wasent paying any attention?

 

[Diesel Power]

its true i wasent paying attention, dons flux injectors are fine for our stage 1 w/ rail cap. thanks :-laf

 

[Diesel Power]

rail cap

the rail cap has been proven to increase pressure on top of cp3 pressure about 3,000psi---so the cap alone would give a good increase in power, and no blow open, cause it eliminates your old relief valve. just thought you should know. i'm recieving new info by the minute!! :-laf thanks

wade

NGM Diesel Performance

 

[HoleshotHolset]

What are the rail and its connected lines rated for in terms of pressure?



If we put in the heavy duty rail cap - what's going to blow out next? The way I understand it, the rail cap is the fusible link in the whole mess and if that is no longer the fusible link - what's next on the chopping board?



Thanks,



Matt

 

[Diesel Power]

What are the rail and its connected lines rated for in terms of pressure?



If we put in the heavy duty rail cap - what's going to blow out next? The way I understand it, the rail cap is the fusible link in the whole mess and if that is no longer the fusible link - what's next on the chopping board?



Thanks,



Matt

good question,

the rail and lines on our trucks have seen about 35-40,000 psi peak with no problems so far, the next weakest link---giving you have injectors rated for these pumps, is the seals in the rail and or lines, the highest railpressure that will be seen is at shut down and when just letting out of it after a WOT run!! thats about it. thanks :-laf

wade

NGM Diesel Performance