finally tried one of those dyno contraptions.

[RonA]

Went over to Browns Valley RV today to pick up some tools I loaned. Blaine talked me into putting the old girl up on the dyno. Best run was 462hp at 2300 rpm. I think that calculates to about 1050 torque. Fuel plate is in middle, egt was 1100, boost was about 52psi. Smoke is about the same as the old motor with the 180 injectors and 14cm housing. That exta spinny thing seems to make a difference.

RonA

 

["Mad Max"]

..... dduuuuude... ... . ssswwweeeeeeeeet... . :-laf

 

[tURBOdIEZEl]

nice numbers.

 

[hdm48]

Well, well, well. It's about time. I've been waiting to see what it does. And I like the low EGT's.

But really, good numbers Ron.





Dave

 

[MrWinkey]

Wow... ...



Please let us know more about the P7100 conversion.

 

[Stomp]

Nice Job Ron

Nice job Ron. Those are very good numbers. You said you would be happy with your pickup at 450hp with the egt's under controll. Now that you have exceeded what you wanted are you going to leave it alone or are you going to try to get more?



Nice numbers. On good old number 2.



Stomp

 

[Mundgyver]

What pray-tell is the advantage of the P7100 conversion and how hard was it to do?? Is the P7100 more durable than the VP-44 and does it put out more pressure=more ponys?? Just looking for good old info here please Oo.

 

[Grey Wolf]

"That exta spinny thing seems to make a difference. " :-laf :-laf :-laf

 

[Fred Swanson]

Good numbers Ron. That's not a bad setup for doing almost anything you'd expect the truck to do. The extra whistle is good for something it appears.

 

[RonA]

I think there is a little more to be had with it. I still have half of my fuel plate travel left, and a little room in the egt dept. If I move the plate all the way forward I might pick up 3 or 4 more hp. But for right now I am going to work on some other things. I have been reading about putting a newer front seat in a first gen. That sounds like a good next step. As far as a p7100 transplant goes, there are alot of threads about it, do a search and you can get alot of info. Some good, some not. It doesn't have to be as expensive as some say.

Ron

 

[DieselBuzz]

"... . the extra spinny thing..... " Like he hardly knows anything about it :-laf :-laf :-laf !!!!

 

[sparks57]

What pray-tell is the advantage of the P7100 conversion and how hard was it to do?? Is the P7100 more durable than the VP-44 and does it put out more pressure=more ponys?? Just looking for good old info here please Oo.

The increased pressure doesn't equate to more HP, but it does aid atomization of the injected fuel (the higher pressure was required for the new EPA laws). The P7100 produces more fuel VOLUME at a lower pressure... it is the king of HP, at the moment.



The P7100 whips the VP44 any day in HP, simplicity, and longevity, but the VP44 has the variable timing, fueling changes on-the-fly, and higher injection pressures. A true hotrod VP44 is in the works as we speak, and the VP44 may soon take the HP heavyweight title...



Also, the VP44 is electronic, and doesn't drag on the engine like the p7100.



I was a little nervouse about having an electronic pump on my new truck (I used to have a first gen), but I'm learning to like it's flexibility. The airflow of the ISB is also excellent compared to 12v's.

 

[sparks57]

Oh, and a P7100 conversion is a real PITA and spendy ($5k+ minimum). A P7100 conversion is only for those looking for high hp without drugs (600+).

 

[Mundgyver]

OOOOOOh, so thats the answer Oo. A P7100 conversion is only for those looking for high hp without drugs (600+). Now I understand. Acouple of months ago, I read an article that stated that heating the diesel up to 180 F would yield about 30% in fuel economy with some hp gain. The VP-44 does not like heated fuel as it need to be cooled. I make the same assumption with the P7000. The conversion price alone would make this only a consideration for some real serious gotta have toy in my mind. Interesting What all do you know about the HotRod VP-44 Who is doing the development work on it? Just looking ahead for my oldage fun

 

[RonA]

I think a p7100 can be had for 2k, the front cover and gear was 300, the lines were 450, the head has to come off and a tiny bit of grinding has to be done under the intake side so the pump will clear. Pop off pressure needs to be changed, that's about 100 dollars. I installed a fass system at first, that was about 600 or so. I think if a guy could get a deal on the pump it wouldn't be too bad money wise. Probably around $1700 or so for parts+ the p7100 and 2 or 3 days labor. I wouldn't convert a running truck. But when you are doing a transplant and don't want to have to change all the sensors and gauges and all the computer stuff. Well, it seemed like a good idea at the time. Plus I was having a hard time finding a low mileage 12 valve. I don't call 90k miles, low mileage. They do not all last 500k. Some are in sad shape at 120k. And CB is right. In a few years there will be electronic pumps that will be way better than the inline pump. But they will still stop working and give you some stupid error code in downtown jackass flats on a saturday night after everything is closed. If you need a tow back to civilization, call a first gen guy. And keep your rough ride comments to yourself.

Ron

 

[RSchwarzli]

Holy snot. 462hp 1050 torque! :--) :--) :--) Oo. Oo. Nuf said on that.



Now the P7100. Does "But when you are doing a transplant and don't want to have to change all the sensors and gauges and all the computer stuff" mean that your 24V is now a mechanical engine like our 12V's? As in no computer control?



Robert

 

[RonA]

That is correct, much to the dismay of the little wait to start light. I put a standard voltage regulator out of a 1985 dodge , $12. 00 at the store, And the computer thinks the truck is parked in the garage. I'd try to remove the computer, but I enjoy taunting it when I open the hood "why don't you get a job".