FLying J ....AG-Fuel???

[robobx]

http://www.flyingj.com/fuel/ag.html



Anyone familiar with this?

Am I right that this is untaxed at purchase and it's coming out of the normal pump, so it's undyed. I am quite suprised they get away with that. Once you fill up your cans and leave the station no one has any way of knowing that that fuel was untaxed



[EDIT] I'm not suggesting or implying that I or anyone should run this untaxed fuel in your on road vehicles [EDIT]

 

[QRTRHRS]

Originally posted by robobx

AmIrightthatthis is untaxed at purc...uel at the pump end as well as the truck end.

 

[Rman]

From what I saw you need the ag fuel card. To get that you have to submit paperwork showing the AG fuel requirement. Then you use the card to buy it. Now the responsibilty lies with the cardholder... what they do with it after that is purely in their hands. They want fines then they can break the rules.

 

[robobx]

I figured there would be many questions on the application for the AG fuel card, like business ID# and tax # etc... NOTHING!

I don't see anything about submitting paperwork showing the AG fuel requirement. simply fill out the on-line application. Unless they mail something to prove you need it after you fill out the application

 

[illflem]

From the bottom line

There's just one hitch, only certain states are able to participate in the program- California, Idaho, Utah, Pennsylvania, Nebraska, Missouri, and North Dakota.

In Montana the red handle is right next to the green in most stations, problem is sometimes you have to wait for the line of pickups ahead of you using it...

 

[Rman]

I'm not a farmer, but i don't see too many red handles around here. I bet they have them further out in the country. My father-in-law gets his red fuel delivered, and has to sign a form of some kind stating its not for road use.



Interesting... anyone want to try it out and see how far they can get before getting caught?

 

[mgonske]

Re: From the bottom line

Originally posted by illflem

There's just one hitch, only certain states are able to participate in the program- California, Idaho, Utah, Pennsylvania, Nebraska, Missouri, and North Dakota.

I caught that one. No Florida--rats. Otherwise, this would be just enough to push me over the line to buy a portable transfer tank that I could take and get filled up and then offload at home.

 

[fbaurley]

This a little of topic , but I recently bought fuel at a truckstop, that didnt have diesel pumps up front with the gasoline. so I had to pull in with the big rigs. I figured id have to pay sales tax on top which I did, but they would not turn the pump on untill I told them my license plate number. What was this for? It was in Indiana if it makes any difference.

 

[hammersley]

This is to hope you don't run off

and don't pay. It also covers the butt's of the employee so he can tell the boss he at least got a license number - who knows if it was accurate.....

 

[klenger]

Some automotive pumps will shut off after x gallons or y dollars of fuel are pumped to prevent large ripoffs. At the station I go to, the pumps shut off at $30 unless I give them a credt card first. The pumps at the truck islands probably don't have any limit, so they want to have some ID before they let you pump $200 worth of fuel.



You sure can fill up fast at the truck pumps though.

 

[ronco]

Pay at the pump is the way to go! That keeps you from getting in line to pay, and some poor mother is having a fight with her little "yard ape" to put the gum down! You can spend all day waiting on some people just to pay fuel. I now avoid a certain local chain because of the inability to pay at the pump. Bought 33 gallons one day, walked in to pay and was told "the cumputers are down and we can't take your credit card"! I SAID FINE, I'LL BE BACK LATER OR YOU CAN BILL ME! I left there in few minutes with a manual receipt!





ronco

 

[Blakers]

Originally posted by fbaurley

This a little of topic , but I recently bought fuel at a truckstop, that didnt have diesel pumps up front with the gasoline. so I had to pull in with the big rigs. I figured id have to pay sales tax on top which I did, but they would not turn the pump on untill I told them my license plate number. What was this for? It was in Indiana if it makes any difference.

I believe Indiana has a system where over the road trucks don't pay road-use tax at the pump, but rather pay it by the mile. Now I don't understand how this all works and I know trucks have to pay so much a mile even if they pay tax at the pump, but Indiana is different somehow. If you have a pickup truck, the price you see is not the price you pay. Unless you get a station attendant that doesn't notice you or just lets you get away with it.



As far as using red fuel, someone needs to invent an additive that gets the red out. I wonder if Visine will work?

 

[Chipstien]

Originally posted by Blakers

I wonder if Visine will work?

You try it first and let us know what you think.