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Folks, it feels good to let off steam occasionally by griping about Big Oil, OPEC, fuel taxes and such-like (and all of these do have small effects on the price of fuel), but ya gotta bear in mind the main problem: the Good Lord only made so much oil, and He done went outta the oil-makin' business altogether a coupla million years ago (without asking my opinion first, unfortunately). Meanwhile, we're pumpin' and burnin' more and more of the stuff every year, and with China's and India's economies booming the way they've started to (that's a lotta new gas pedals!) its only going to get worse. Unfortunately its an unbreakable law that when more and more money chases less and less stuff, the stuff will become more and more expensive... and that's what's happening today.



It wasn't too widely reported, but last year was a landmark in human history: for the first time, the amount of oil the human race pumped outta the ground exceeded the amount of new oil deposits it discovered... that is to say, we've started on the way down to runnin' out. Sure, it'll take a while yet, but things only get worse from here.



Meanwhile, we're doin' just about squat to improve our situation. The good news is that energy conservation has helped a lot... today, it takes about 50% less energy to earn a dollar of GDP than it did 30 years ago, mostly due to more efficient equipment (electric motors, trucks and planes, lighting and heating systems, email, etc). Using energy efficiently has a huge impact on keeping the price of oil down. The bad news is, most of those efficiency gains happened a decade or more ago... I don't think anyone would argue that there's not much more we can do to conserve energy - look at the new 50 MPG passenger cars, and look at how few people actually own one... but our elected leaders are sitting on their duffs instead of making energy efficiency a national priority.



As well, if God ain't makin' any more oil, then prolly we should start taking up the slack ourselves. We can grow our own oil, dang it -- do a search on 'biodiesel' to learn more. But today biodiesel is a drop in the bucket, mostly because our politicians choose to subsidize tobacco farmers and lawyers, but not biodiesel producers.



So yeah, definitely, please e-mail your congressman ( http://www.house.gov/writerep/ ), your senators ( http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm ), and the president ( -- email address removed -- ). But don't just gripe to them about the sad state of things... nobody cares about what ticks you off. Instead, demand productive solutions: real efforts to promote energy efficiency, and real efforts to promote alternative fuels like biodiesel... . action, not just election-year lip-flapping.
 
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WBusa said:
Folks, it feels good to let off steam occasionally by griping about Big Oil, OPEC, fuel taxes and such-like (and all of these do have small effects on the price of fuel), but ya gotta bear in mind the main problem: the Good Lord only made so much oil, and He done went outta the oil-makin' business altogether a coupla million years ago (without asking my opinion first, unfortunately). Meanwhile, we're pumpin' and burnin' more and more of the stuff every year, and with China's and India's economies booming the way they've started to (that's a lotta new gas pedals!) its only going to get worse. Unfortunately its an unbreakable law that when more and more money chases less and less stuff, the stuff will become more and more expensive... and that's what's happening today.



It wasn't too widely reported, but last year was a landmark in human history: for the first time, the amount of oil the human race pumped outta the ground exceeded the amount of new oil deposits it discovered... that is to say, we've started on the way down to runnin' out. Sure, it'll take a while yet, but things only get worse from here.



Meanwhile, we're doin' just about squat to improve our situation. The good news is that energy conservation has helped a lot... today, it takes about 50% less energy to earn a dollar of GDP than it did 30 years ago, mostly due to more efficient equipment (electric motors, trucks and planes, lighting and heating systems, email, etc). Using energy efficiently has a huge impact on keeping the price of oil down. The bad news is, most of those efficiency gains happened a decade or more ago... I don't think anyone would argue that there's not much more we can do to conserve energy - look at the new 50 MPG passenger cars, and look at how few people actually own one... but our elected leaders are sitting on their duffs instead of making energy efficiency a national priority.



As well, if God ain't makin' any more oil, then prolly we should start taking up the slack ourselves. We can grow our own oil, dang it -- do a search on 'biodiesel' to learn more. But today biodiesel is a drop in the bucket, mostly because our politicians choose to subsidize tobacco farmers and lawyers, but not biodiesel producers.



So yeah, definitely, please e-mail your congressman ( http://www.house.gov/writerep/ ), your senators ( http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm ), and the president ( -- email address removed -- ). But don't just gripe to them about the sad state of things... nobody cares about what ticks you off. Instead, demand productive solutions: real efforts to promote energy efficiency, and real efforts to promote alternative fuels like biodiesel... . action, not just election-year lip-flapping.

I agree with you! It was reported on "AUTOLINE DETROIT" today, that the US Capacity to produce fuel (Gasolene & Diesel) has been dropping dramaticly since 1981. The US has not added ANY refineries in nearly a quarter of a century!!! The number of refineries have been dropping off. According to the "energy Information Administration", imports for Fuel between the years 2000 to 2004 increased 19. 6 Percent! Between the years 2003 and 2004 it was a 2. 2 Percent!!



Why do you ask? Its because the US Oil Companies are not installing new refineries, simply because the crude is not there... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... we are running out of oil! :eek:



Wayne

amsoilman
 
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Part of the problem is oil refineries have been closing up un the US . In 1981 there were almost 400 refineries in the US. Today there are just over 150. No new ones have been built in 25 years. Add to this regional differences in fuel formulations; which cause certain refineries to specialize in these formulations, and you are on your way to a recipe for disaster. We are also importing more refined fuel products from other countries, and lets not forget China's ever growing need and want for fuel. In a nutshell, it's just supplt and demand.



Greg
 
One fact --- limit the production - artificially by having

no new refineries - let's see will that raise or lower fuel prices :--) ????????? Don't tell me they couldn't build new refineries if they wanted - I spent 30+ years in the environmental regulatory business - they never tried. What I'm afraid is we have in the oil industry what we had in the California electricity SNAFU - Manipulated market!!! And if you didn't follow that story - believe you me - folks are in jail over it... ..... Sorry guys - I don't buy the arguments! The Fox isn't watching the chicken coop - he's got a CHICKEN OUTFIT ON!!!
 
Ham

Dems would like to see all refineries gone in so Ca. You should see the fight just to squeak the ULSD project by which is a federally mandated requirement, Building a new plant costs billions and over five years to build it not to mention the red tape for permitting. Mac
 
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