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Well beings I got your attention I want to tell you a story that should help you decide how to better spend your hard earned money on more power. Had I listened to everyone on TDR I would not have been put through a cold weather survival challenge offered by PPE. I read on TDR so many people love the smarty. I researched the smarty and hated it cuz it didn't raise my RPM's to 3700 or higher as my 3 hours worth of math, reading articles by greg hogue (sry if I spelled ur name wrong), and other studies over the past 3 years of my life, all told me that more RPM's would be benifical to winning more on the tracks. Since the smarty didn't raise the RPM's like the PPE did I bought the PPE Hot Xccellerator from Xtreme Diesel. I believe they sent me the wrong product. I think they sent me the base model Xccellerator (by the p/n). I tried to contact Xtreme Diesel but they wouldn't respond they online support line. So I decided lets just try this cuz I have nothing (I just removed my banks had too many problems with it). I started my truck and ran the heat until they cab was hot. At the same time I read the worthless paperwork (#1 8. 5x11 page folded into a 4 page book) provided with the PPE. I turned the truck off. Key on engine off like how I use the snapon and DRB scan tools. I tried to download the xtreme setting off the PPE tuner. in the instructions it said all accessories off, don't even open the doors as this may interupt download. I think the thing started to download. I heard relays under hood clicking and such. 12 minutes went by it was very cold in the cab (20 degrees outside). I grabbed at coat at this time. 18 minutes I could see my breath but time seemed to pass very quickly. I simply figured PPE didn't do their research on protocol (Speed communication between connector of OBDII port and PCM). 30 minutes I was thinking the PPE should be done any minute now so I thought I could wait (though it was very cold) for few more minutes for it to be done. 40 minutes I was trying to find more ways to try to hold in my body heat cuz it was very cold and painful (I will explain cold pains at the very bottom). I still figured the download could be done any time now. 55 minutes I started to get anxcious and started to think the PPE was sorry. 1 hour into the download and waiting on the clicking under the hood to stop I finally decided enough was enough. I decided to open the door and leave it open and go inside. I did this even though the directions said opening a door could interupt download. so any was I opened the door went inside cranked up the heat in the house cuz I was shivering. I ate some chips, watched 1. 5 episodes of M*A*S*H then went out to check on it. THE DERN THING WAS STILL DOWNLOADING AND IT HAD BEEN 2. 5 HOURS WORTH OF DOWNLOADING. I got mad and called the PPE a heap of ______, keyoff engine off, unplugged the PPE and then tried to start the truck. wouldn't you know it all the engine would do was pump air with about 2 hp (starter)!!!! I was mad said a few more words about how you can spend $900 and make a $30,000 truck not run anymore. What started as wanting to upload some horse power and drive it around the block a few times turned into a cold weather survival (not supposed to touch anything inside truck), and ended with a mouthful of foul words to describe PPE, and a $30,000 truck that doesn't run. the instruction PPE provided said that you have to disconect the batteries, wait 2 minutes then connect them and get the PPE to install stock program. I can fix alot of things on trucks and cars as I have worked in automotive shops and wents to automotive schools all through highschool and 2 years a NTI. But the reason I have been shelling out big $$$ paying others to work on my stuff for me is because it is too cold to work on anything in the driveway. My truck doesn't fit in the garage or the shed with a garage door. I experience severe pain when out in the cold for a shop accident (see bottom) and that is the reason I have literally been hibernating for a few months now and letting myself go. So it is a nitemare for me to go in the garage find a 2 1/2inch wrenches and undo the batteries.



I have been thinking about waiting til tommorow in the daylight and make a video of what to do with a $900 piece of crap using the video camera and the shotgun, then the computer and uploading it all over the internet including TDR. Next time I will simply listen to those on TDR and buy the smarty and wait for the smarty engineers to get off their pot of gold (at least they should have one by the amount of people on TDR buying there stuff) and make a program for those who want to run more RPM's. I personally will be getting the truck running and drive to my grandma house and call Xtreme diesel and send this heap of crap PPE back and buy the smarty. The smarty uploads in 2 minutes while the PPE takes over 2. 5 hours. Theres a slim chance smarty will hurt the PCM permanantly, The PPE can definitely do this, I would imagine easily. The smarty can recover from interupted downloading simply by unplugging then pluggin back in and hitting a button. The PPE you have to grab you coat, spend a while looking through the reroganized garage for 2 half inch wrenches, undo both batteries, zip tie the battery terminals away from the battery so they would touch it, go inside the house wait 2 minutes, then connect the batteries, and wait for the PPE to possibly repair the damage it caused. if it cannot fix the damage you spend money on a tow bill, let a dealer touch your truck (they screw mine up everytime so I don't care if I have a warranty cuz I hate the dealers), Let them upload a new program to the PCM that includes the updates I personally don't want (the one where if not in park and you open the door the alarm goes off and scares the _____ out of you and wakes up the neighbors with in all just embarasses you), then hitch a ride in the "ford smokehouse" (my gma's car) spend the money your saving up for the twin turbos on the repair, then fix what the dealer screwed up touching my truck. NEVER AGAIN WILL I BUY SOMETHING FROM PPE. I was considering PPE's twin CP3 kit... . yeah right I'm going for the ATS twin CP3 now. The only way I would ever consider a PPE product again is if I find out the compnay has changed hands, and hear good things about the new owners. When it comes down to it everyone is free to make their own decisions on what they want to run on their trucks. I don't make the decisions for you so you make up your own mind whether PPE is right for you. All I am saying in this thread is PPE is not for me and possibly not those who live in areas of crime as someone can steal your PPE during the 2. 5+ hours of downloading from their tuner. This thread simply represents my personal thoughts of PPE hot xcellerator. others may have had more positive experience and others who choose to buy a PPE in the future may have a good experience. Don't choose not to buy a PPE cuz of me. This is a free country buy what ever you can legally buy and have the money for.
 
That is why I order NOTHING off the internet. I find a local dealer or drive out of town to a Diesel performance shop to get ALL my work done. Guess what... 3 CTD... . all modded... 715,000 total miles... . no problems.



But thats just me...
 
my wife even liked that story and she hates TDR... ... ... ...

sounds like you bought the wrong product from the wrong company, hopefully the next one will serve you better. :cool:
 
Not to jump on the band wagon I am still trying to figure out what the 3 hours of math you did to figure you needed 5,000 rpm.
 
So now what????

Well last night at like 8PM est I undid the battery waited 4 minutes. reconnected it. then plugged in the PPE and hit y to reflash back to stock. I checked on it at 10PM and it was still on the same screen clicking relays underhood. I thought well 2. 5 hours one way it must take 2. 5 hours to go back the other but I am tired and going to bed. After a rough dream early this morning where me and the dog were talking to each other via snoring and interpertuting the snores into words, I awoke at 4:45AM. I got dressed went outside to check on the truck. Would you know it that PPE is still on the same screen Clicking relays and is unresponsive. I do not have a cell phone or land line right now. My only contact to the outside world (out of my house) was to drive over to talk to who ever I had to talk to. Also When someone would finally stop by I could talk to them. This is the reason I ordered the PPE from xtreme diesel. I tried to contact them online and couldn't get a hold of them to get the proper tuner, so I simply thought I'd try the PPE they sent me. Now I spent $900 to make my cummins powered carrier pigeon become an 8,000 paper weight with really comfy seats.



Any got any ideas what I need to do so I can undo what the PPE has caused??? My mother is coming in town today and I would like to be able to drive her around. I am also starting to run low on food and drinks (can't drink the water in this house, I use a soda to brush my teeth). The PPE is stuck on the Screen that says hit Y to reflash back to stock and is clicking relays under the hood. If I can't fix within the next day or so I will have to dress up warm and wear a blanket on top and hoof it to the nearest gas station to use the phone to call a tow truck and buy a new PCM and have it flashed with the Dalmer Chrysler update that will drive me insane (I will unplug the horn so I can leave it in neutral while I jump out)
 
If you can't tell from this post and previous post every last penny is being spent into my truck. The truck is paid off I don't care for warranty cuz dealerships screw up my truck everytime it goes there. My yearly budget right now is set so that everything goes direct deposit for the truck. I don't have a Girlfriend and I don't want one to commit myself to right. I don't have kids and my budget won't allow for kids. I had a cell phone and no landline but the cell stopped won't charging and my budget doesn't allow for a new one. The house needs TLC but its being put on the back burner til my race in NC during the summer months. I am just a bacholer making a living from home spending all my money in my truck while my life status is "barely getting by". It may not be the healthiest situation but if its whats neccessary to compete with the big guy with all the money and all the trucks, I'm willing to make the sacrafice.
 
You mentioned that you removed your Banks because of too many problems. Is it possible that the banks did something to your ecm? I know a few people who had Bully Dog tuners prior to using the Smarty and they had all sorts of issues.



I am not saying that is the case, but it is something to consider. Sorry you are having a bad experience and hope you can get it resolved quickly. I know whenever I change my programming and try new downloads, I am just a little bit wary that all is going to be ok.
 
in the mean time bring you ppe into the house and let it warm for an hour then wrap it in a blanket or something similar, then retry you download, my ppe has done the same on cold nights. warmit, wrap it and retryit. hope fully it works for you.
 
Think your in a pickle now? Wait until you get the downloaders to work and sled pull or what not and you really break something. Maybe a differant hobby is in order? House and a phone I would think would be number 1 in my book. I've been bad down and out and the LAST thing I needed was a vehicle repair bill.
 
Think your in a pickle now? Wait until you get the downloaders to work and sled pull or what not and you really break something. Maybe a differant hobby is in order?



No kidding!!! and EVERYONE breaks.
 
NGM Diesel said:
in the mean time bring you ppe into the house and let it warm for an hour then wrap it in a blanket or something similar, then retry you download, my ppe has done the same on cold nights. warmit, wrap it and retryit. hope fully it works for you.



LOL the PPE is not my baby. If It was I'd take it out back and... .....



yea I will try to warm it up even though it sounds crazy.
 
Theres a special bunch of people out there and I think I have found them. Many thanks to all of those who have beent trying to help me work out my issues I am having with the PPE nightmare. i don't know for sure what went wrong but theres just a good feeling knowing there is so many out there willing to help. I am holding on to my messages and I will plan on giving credit to all of those who are doing there best to help me. I think once I get the truck started and running I will drive it around the block get it warmed up then do a burn out and dedicate it to those helpful and concerned people on TDR. I will get a pic and upload it jsut for ya. But until then Still have issues and still have i would say less than 2 horsepower total (starter)
 
DPKetchum said:
Think your in a pickle now? Wait until you get the downloaders to work and sled pull or what not and you really break something. Maybe a differant hobby is in order?



Well the problem with breaking at a sled pull is that i will just wanna load up and go home. My buddies dad works for triple a so that eases my mind some. I used to work at a 4wd shop so most things are easy for me. I am planning a buying a peice of property soon and putting up a 40x60 pole building with small 2 story living quarters and a lot of shop space to handle all of my projects and fix what ever I tear up. I typically just have so much going on at once and theres not enough of me to go around.
 
yeah I tried to email PPE with the email you gave me. yahoo failed to deliver it several times. I tried the PPE sales department email addy and got no response. I am ready to start looking online at used trucks for sale maybe I will find a 04. 5 with cummin and auto. I will run up to the farm my sis used to keep her horse out and go bareback with a back pack full off tools to open the hood and swipe the PCM in the middle of the night. LOL but seriously the truck sits in the driveway and I have no Idea what to do to fix it other than to send it to the dealer and get new updated software installed. If i do get the new software installed The first thing I will be doing before I leave the dealer lot is unplugging the horn. I simply won't stand for that kind of non sense dodge offers with their new updated software. I tried the babying the PPE method and nothing happened. This is very annoying. since I haven't a clue on how to get the PPE to fix what it has done I am gonna layer up and go unplug as many computers and I can take apart the truck and find and leave them unplugged all night.
 
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