depends what you're looping for--drag racing or sled pulling--I don't remember the exact details for the racing end, but a quick review of the rules will set you straight--for sled pulling the worse is Missouri, I believe, with 3 loops on every shaft(9 total) and 6" long cans around every u-joint--no more than 2" away ---my setup has 7 I think, maybe eight, I don't remember if I did 3 right after the t-case or not, but I know I only did two at the front shaft as it was too much of a pain in the arse to do the last can---chris