Froze solid it was 6 above zero

[mbaston]

Been there, did it. No problems although I don't make a point of it. If I know it is going to be below zero and I am running number 2, I generally put in an additive.

 

[Blakers]

The only time I've ever had trouble with #2 fuel was years ago, on my way to college, my old 200D Benz quit due to fuel gelling. It was -20 F. I think I was running some red fuel oil out of my uncle's 1000 gal tank. I'm sure it wasn't "winterized. "

 

[daveshoe]

3rd gen specific

I wish I had paid more attention to this, but I have seen on ''a diesel website'' something about water getting into 3rd gen tanks. It is something to do with an opening in the fuel tank that would have a return hose on it if it were a gasser. I know a guy with a fleet that had known quality fuel and the only truck with water in it was his dodge. All the semi's were fine. The only tank not from his own fuel tank was from the dealer when he purchased the truck. If anybody knows where to find this, please post and help the 3rd genners out.

 

[DF5152]

Originally posted by MOConnor

Ok I just got my truck thawed out after 8hrs in heated shed. Cost me 200. 00 bucks to get it towed to the shed from the city about 50 miles. I put STP Diesel waxing and geling stuff after it would not start. then had it towed home,it now runs fine. What kind of additive should I use the next time I fill my truck up..... Thanks from the frozen north east... ... ... ... ... ... Mike

your local walmart sells power service in the gallon for summer and winter blend I havent had any problems and been adding a little since i got the truck for the lubrication



Dan

 

[420welder]

daveshoe,Search the user name "dctech" and look for water frozen in tank

 

[DKayser]

Frozen = bad!

Howes every tank,every season,every diesel. Just gave a bottle to the cousin for his new 04. We`re getting him started right. Hey, do 3rd gens have a plug, or do you have to buy the cord? He says he ain`t seen one , and it is too cold to go look for him. Not my truck. DK.

 

[johnrv4]

3rd generation guys check out this thread

Here's the thread from DCTech:https://www.turbodieselregister.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=88531

 

[crabjoe]

Originally posted by DKayser

Howes every tank,every season,every diesel. Just gave a bottle to the cousin for his new 04. We`re getting him started right. Hey, do 3rd gens have a plug, or do you have to buy the cord? He says he ain`t seen one , and it is too cold to go look for him. Not my truck. DK.

For Rams sold in the US, '04s don't have a plug. You had to order it as a $10 option. I sure am glad I order it!

 

[NSperduto]

I have only 3k on the clock on my '04, but no problems. I've only plugged in once so far and the truck sits outside. Sunday morning is was 1 degree when I left, this morning it was 5 and a few days last week, it was in the single digits.



I've been looking around for the Power Service 911 stuff, but haven't located it yet.

Does the reguarl Power Service stuff I see at the station, is that good to run for anti gelling.



Although I've bought my last 4 tanks of fuel from the same station, so that may have something to do with having no problems.



Nick

 

[NSperduto]

Just curiouse to know how much fuel was in your tank when this happened?



Nick

Originally posted by MOConnor

Ok I just got my truck thawed out after 8hrs in heated shed. Cost me 200. 00 bucks to get it towed to the shed from the city about 50 miles. I put STP Diesel waxing and geling stuff after it would not start. then had it towed home,it now runs fine. What kind of additive should I use the next time I fill my truck up..... Thanks from the frozen north east... ... ... ... ... ... Mike

 

[mbaston]

Power service 911 is only for emergency gelling. the regular power service claims to lower the gel point something like 35 degrees.

 

[Tomscreek]

minus 36 here last week for two nights, truck outside, regular #2 diesel with Power Service additive and no fuel problems at all

 

[NSperduto]

My plan is to not run any additive and keep the 911 on hand incase I have a problem. I believe it has alot to do with where you buy your fuel and how full you keep your tank. For every person that I hear say you have to run additive, I hear another say they don't run anything. Heck, I have friends with 6 friends with diesels, 3 run an additive and 3 don't. Only one has ever had a freeze up about 2 years ago.



Nick

Originally posted by mbaston

Power service 911 is only for emergency gelling. the regular power service claims to lower the gel point something like 35 degrees.

 

[Turbo Tim 1]

Originally posted by Tomscreek

minus 36 here last week for two nights, truck outside, regular #2 diesel with Power Service additive and no fuel problems at all

I would bet big money that the fuel at the diesel pumps in Montana is at least a 60/40 mix of #2 to kerosene right now. Not busting on you just pointing out that it is pre-mixed in the tank.

 

[FJfonda]

Stanadyne performance formula



For 140,000 miles summer/winter. Starts no problem at -20 not plugged in. You can't always trust the local distributor to treat the fuel for cold temps. We lost a whole fleet of school busses one nasty frozen morning for improperly treated fuel!!

And... if you travel... south... remember that their fuel may not be "winterized". This stranded my bro-in-law... fueled up down south and gelled up here in NY.

 

[fritzimax]

Stanadyne performance formula !!! In every tank, cheap insurance.

 

[JJW_ND]

There is Straight #2 up here....

I know MT and here in ND we have straight #2 all winter. It is only at larger truck stops and most have it in undergound tanks. It will gell (Fords have more problems then us) if untreated and temps are cold enough. I have never gelled so I do not know the coldest straight #2 goes but I have been OK down to -5 many times.



This only applies to setting over night where the fuel has lots of time to cool off. Once driving I would not hestitate to fuel up with straight #2 and drive through temps below -20 untreated (this I have tested many times down to -30).



I to do the Stanadyne and now Amalagated treatment with #2 (usually premium). I have not used and #1 or blend in 7 years and don't plan on.



jjw

ND

 

[Pugster]

The real problem here is the cloud point, not the way lower temperature of the gell point or pour point. That is the temperature which causes the fuel to visually cloud up. (the only sure way to check distillate fuel for impurities & wax crystals visually is to look at it through a clean glass, (not plastic) container. The cloudiness is the minute wax particles which build up on the filter surfaces blocking fuel flow. The only way to dissolve the wax blockage is to bring the temperature of the fuel up above the point where wax blockage started to form.



If you disolve the blockage with heat at the filter, and do not warm up the fuel in the tank at the same time, you will stop again a few miles down the the road.

 

[Turbo Tim 1]

Interesting little article I found



Pour Points

 

[GIT-R-DONE]

If you rely on the fuel station to cut the fuel for you , sooner or later you'll be left along the road all froze up. Been there , Done that. Don't know if the tanker guy didn't add the anti-gell in with it or what but personnel error can occur and leave you along the road. A lot of trucks froze up that bought fuel from this station that day. I always treat my fuel as if its untreated when I pump it in. Since then I haven't had any problems. Why take the chance of freezing up?



Don