fuel additives.....again

[monkeyman]

Would you want an engine designed in Japan? I heard they run well on Soy, that is the sauce!Oo.

Rick

 

[ZBrooks]

Biodiesel.

 

[RWalker]

Have you ever tried Amalgamated diesel additive?

 

[AABEN]

I have an 03 six speed that I have ran Howes Treat in from day one. When they went from 500PPM to 15PPM I started to use 2-cycle oil super TECH that I buy from at W-world. I am still running the fuel pump that came on the truck. The 03-04 was known for their fuel pump to go out so I thank it has saved my pump and I have ben getting from 14. 1 to 14. 6 MPG pulling my fifth wheel all over. I run from 62 to 75 MPH when pulling it. I would not run the 2-cycle in 07 up but would run the Howes Treat. ==Good Luck Howes Lubricator

 

[Wingate]

IMO, the constant use of additives is a complete over-kill... I can see where the use on an occasional basis could quite possibly help disperse accumulated water in the fuel. I can see where you might add it to engines up north, especially in the winter time months.

As for two-stroke oil, it is a great troubleshooting tool that is a little more friendly to modern high pressure fuel systems. Definitely more friendly that MMO, used engine oil or trans. fluid!!. . It can be used to troubleshoot an un-ruly FCA. I've used it on a brand new set of CR injectors in a D max to get them to quit sticking while travelling down the highway. .

Used it on a 7. 3 PSD that was 200 miles out of town with unleaded in one tank!!. . ARGH!!!. . Believe me... it HAS its uses...

Persoanlly, I don't believe the fuel mileage claims, unless you are starting out with REALLY crappy diesel fuel. .

 

[steved]

IMO, the constant use of additives is a complete over-kill...

Persoanlly, I don't believe the fuel mileage claims, unless you are starting out with REALLY crappy diesel fuel. .

I'm beginning to believe this as well...

I'm pretty sure constant running of PS is what caused my failed injectors at 140k.

And I only recently quit using 2-stroke, and my mileage has actually increased. My truck has almost completely quit smoking since stopping the 2-stroke also... before I could blacken a highway, now just a little puff.

 

[Crazy Horse]

Amalgamated

I agree, here's a link to Amalgamated. 10 oz every fill up. I use the summer blend.

 

[monkeyman]

Do they sell direct? No prices on site, what is the cost?
Thanks, Rick

 

[bheiting]

One of Cummins major concerns with after market additives was compatibility with the original additives in the fuel. Incompatibility can cause gum in the fuel filter. Biodiesel came out on top in the lubricity study. If bio is in your fuel you should not have to worry about lubricity. Mileage claims are probably bogus.

 

[Crazy Horse]

Do they sell direct? No prices on site, what is the cost?

Yes, they do. Just call them and they will be able to give you cost and approx shipping. I ordered 5 gal pale last year. I think it was around $125. 00 .

 

[RWalker]

We only sell direct, we are the manufacturer and shipper - a 5-gallon Pale Is $97. 95 plus shipping for the TDR-S (summer)and the TDR-WDA for year around use is $100. 24 plus shipping. If you want smaller quantites they are available in 6-pack quarts and 2. 5's

If you want shipping cost go to AmalgamatedInc.com and I will get you your shipping cost!

 

[RWalker]

One of Cummins major concerns with after market additives was compatibility with the original additives in the fuel. Incompatibility can cause gum in the fuel filter. Biodiesel came out on top in the lubricity study. If bio is in your fuel you should not have to worry about lubricity. Mileage claims are probably bogus.

You are correct if you are running at least a 2% bio blend you should not need a lubricity additive and you can run a 2% blend year around without any major gelling issues. Compatibility issues were somewhat do to high sulfur contents and those concerns were taken care of when we were mandated ULSD fuels in 2006.

Another isssue though nobody talks about is the Cetane rating. U. S. only mandates a 40 Cetane Number while Europe Mandates a 50 Cetane number and moving to 55 in 2012. What do the Europeans know that we don't know, only more than half of there vehicles are diesel?

A typical american diesel fuel only has a 43-45 Cetane Number. If you look at semi's the black smoke is unburnt fuel, if you had a higher cetane fuel there would be less polution and trucks would getter fuel economy.

 

[jleons]

Hello

I areaa with BIGNASTY. Alamagated is a great product. Go to there site and look @ TDR-WDA.

Thanks

Jim

 

[jleons]

Hello

I would like to add just one further reason I use Amalgamated fuel additive. Yes I really dont need it; but it improves my cetane by 6 + and mileage by 4%. I like the feeling of the extra power and fuel savings I accheive with the increase of fuel prices.

I droped off 2gl to a friend who does not use any additive - he called soon after using this product and asked" where do I get this stuff".

Happy Trucking

JL

 

[jleons]

Hello

Ya really. Guess who paid for this study. It did not include Lubrication Engineer's or Almagated products.

You have to test these products yourself and no GEE-WIZZ stuff; please.

JL

 

[24V-DSL]

I've tried most all of the additives. Been using Amalgamated for over 200K. 6+ Cetane rating is the main reason. I do trust their advertising claims.

 

[GAmes]

A typical american diesel fuel only has a 43-45 Cetane Number. If you look at semi's the black smoke is unburnt fuel, if you had a higher cetane fuel there would be less polution and trucks would getter fuel economy.

While I'm working I listen to the Roaddog channel on satellite radio. The diiferent hosts regularly have guests that talk about things that can be done to improve mileage. There is also a regular program on the weekend that is hosted by an owner/operator small fleet owner. His goal is to reduce overall costs to make his business competitive and increase the bottom line. He establishes a baseline for each of his trucks and evaluates aftermarket items that will either improve mileage or make routine maintenance less expensive. He also provides wisdom to drivers who call in with various truck/engine/transmission combos and recommends things that will cut their costs depending on how they use their trucks. He also takes into account the cost of the product and how long it will take the driver to recoup the investment and start making more money. Improvements usually include single wide tires over duels (N/A to oversize haulers), aerodynamic improvements, different air filters and exhaust systems and of course, slowing down. Mileage gains as low as . 1 mpg are discussed. Incredibly not one guest or the guy who has his own show ever mention fuel additives as a money saving item. If any additive really produced a 4% gain it would be huge. A 4% improvement is . 28 mpg with a 7mpg truck. A 3000 mile a week driver who gets 7 mpg spends roughly $1250 on fuel a week. A 4% saving is over $2500 a year, not counting the cost of the additive, yet not one person has made the claim you have. As you have probably guessed, regarding any claims for increased mileage, the B. S. flag is up

 

[NIsaacs]

How can a few ounces of "anything" in a 35 gal tank of fuel do anything? Snake oil has been around for years... .



Nick

 

[BIGNASTY]

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How can a few ounces of "anything" in a 35 gal tank of fuel do anything? Snake oil has been around for years... .



Nick

I haul fuel and I asked the term. tech how much additive the company puts in a load of diesel fuel (7600 gal) he told me the percent I asked how much per gal he said drops per gal Im sure that the oil companies really give a I TRIED TO BY-PASS THE CUSSING FILTER about your truck. So I say ounces vs drops in 35 gal Ill take the ounces remember they made 46 BILLION in profit last year just 1 company JMO