Engine/Transmission (1998.5 - 2002) Fuel Additives?

[Diesel_5.9L]

I am wondering what is the best Fuel Additive on the market for these VP-44 pumps and for the compression ring. I heard with these low sulfur 500 and soon to be 15 ppm fuels an additive is a must to keep everything lubed, but there are too many choices out there. I heard that Power Service is the absolute worst thing to use due to alcohol and dries seals and o-rings? Any comments on Soy Shield or Stanadyne additive heard good things about them of course I was talking to the Reps that sell them though too. Any help with choosing the best additive for the engine would be most apprecitive. Thanks to all that Reply.

Chad

 

[lrox]

I am also in the market for a new additive. I'm currently using Power Service, no one else in my area has anything else on the shelf.

 

[OL RATLR]

I am also in the market for a new additive. I'm currently using Power Service, no one else in my area has anything else on the shelf.

Every body does there own thing I have used Power Service every thank for 5 yrs 124000 no problems. Go figure Oo.

 

[FourBarR]

Howes Meaner and marvels mystery oil. now 427,000kms on original VP-44.

 

[JKinney]

I use amsoil additives

 

[KKunz]

I was talking to the local Cummins dealer and he uses Stanadyne additive. He told me to make sure that the additive is petroleum base not alcohol base, but made a point to tell me to never use power service plus. Im just repeating what I was told. This is the stuff that I use and that the Cummins dealer uses http://www.mwfi.com/Fuel-Additives/performance_form.htm. (Just a note of information his truck is a 99 with lots of mods he I at around 180,000 miles and still on his original vp44 he has used the Stanadyne additive since the truck was new

 

[ILIANBG]

The link you provided does seem not to work. Or is it my computer? Are you talking about Stanadyne Performance Formula?

 

[KKunz]

Yes the Stanadyne Performance Formula and the lube. I get it at cummins or you can order it at midwest fuel injection they have on line ordering. try this

http://www.mwfi.com/tech.htm

 

[sg5054]

I run the Stanadyne and get it from a local fuel injection shop. I even use it in my boat (300 hp Yanmar). No complaints here.

 

[Duluth Diesel]

I recently starting using/carrying the new AMSOIL Diesel Concentrate that just came out about a month ago. It is engineered to ULSD, and I am very impressed. I formerly used Power Service. They also have a new anti-gel called Cold Flow. 1 bottle treats 80 gallons.

 

[Diesel_5.9L]

Thanks to everyone who replied I believe I am going to try the Stanadyne Performance formula heard lots of good things about their product. $23 for a 1/2 gallon does that sound about right? I am sure there is many other great additives out there also such as Ams Oil been using their Synthetic Oil for a long time sure the additive is just as good.

 

[analog]

dieslemanor.com has it for $16. 75/half gal.



http://www.dieselmanor.com/fuel/perf_form.asp

 

[Regcabguy]

Power Service=no alcohol.

I was talking to the local Cummins dealer and he uses Stanadyne additive. He told me to make sure that the additive is petroleum base not alcohol base, but made a point to tell me to never use power service plus. Im just repeating what I was told. This is the stuff that I use and that the Cummins dealer uses http://www.mwfi.com/Fuel-Additives/performance_form.htm. (Just a note of information his truck is a 99 with lots of mods he I at around 180,000 miles and still on his original vp44 he has used the Stanadyne additive since the truck was new

Power Service plainly states on the bottle:"Contains no alcohol of any type. " I don't know if the stuff works or not,but alcohol is not in it.

 

[BTowler]

I've used Power Service since I got my truck in 03, no problems at all.

 

[Crazy Horse]

The question I have have is; with all these "additives" for diesel fuel are they (big brother) really going to allow manufactuers to put additives on the market with all the goodies that the refiners just took out???



It's seems to me it would be like taking the emissions componets off an engine that was made to have them on to supposedly run cleaner.

 

[BTowler]

"Big Brother" did not make them take lubricity out of the fuel, only the sulfur, which is where the lubricity came from. The problem is the VP44 is fuel lubricated, but the refiners are not likely to add lubricating additives to all diesel for a small portion of the market, a "not everybody needs it" situation. With fuel prices were they are now they won't do anything to raise the price beyond necessity, so here we are, stuck having to add it ourselves.

 

[steved]

"Big Brother" did not make them take lubricity out of the fuel, only the sulfur, which is where the lubricity came from. The problem is the VP44 is fuel lubricated, but the refiners are not likely to add lubricating additives to all diesel for a small portion of the market, a "not everybody needs it" situation. With fuel prices were they are now they won't do anything to raise the price beyond necessity, so here we are, stuck having to add it ourselves.

ULSD still has to meet ASTM specs for diesel fuel... so it will have lubrication added to it if needed to meet that spec.



steved

 

[isb360]

Duluth Diesel... I am a fan of Amsoil products and will probably start using it soon in my truck when the ULSD hits. Question(S):



a) what is the difference between the Cold Flow Improver and the Diesel Concentrate?



b) What does each of them do and why would you pick one versus the other or would you use both? I would prefer to use one to help lubricity and bump the cetane in the winter junk they sell here in CT.



General Question: what is Bosch's official position on the effects of ULSD on the VP pumps? I seem to remember reading that the seal materials used in the pump are compatible with ULSD... true?



Thanks

Tim

 

[Duluth Diesel]

a) Cold Flow is just a straight Anti-gel additive. That's it. Diesel Concentrate contains NO anti-gel, but has awesome detergent, lubricity, and cetane additives. I am very impressed with the Diesel Concentrate. I noticed a marked improvment in how my engine sounded and ran, and that was a straight switch to AMSOIL directly from Power Service additives. I firmly believe that the AMSOIL is a superior additive. For winter applications, when you want the best of both. This is also a benefit in the summer months, since you can run the Diesel Concentrate and NOT have the anti-gel in there.



b) To have anti-gel, lubricity, and cetane in the winter, you should run both AMSOIL additives together.



Thanks!

Duluth Diesel... I am a fan of Amsoil products and will probably start using it soon in my truck when the ULSD hits. Question(S):



a) what is the difference between the Cold Flow Improver and the Diesel Concentrate?



b) What does each of them do and why would you pick one versus the other or would you use both? I would prefer to use one to help lubricity and bump the cetane in the winter junk they sell here in CT.



General Question: what is Bosch's official position on the effects of ULSD on the VP pumps? I seem to remember reading that the seal materials used in the pump are compatible with ULSD... true?



Thanks

Tim

 

[analog]

Just ordered some Stanadyne from DieselManor, and the sales guy told me that I was getting the last of their stock of the "old" stuff. The new stuff, with a new part number was on it's way from the factory. It was re-formulated to meet the ULSD specs that go into effect in 2007. Kind of makes me wonder if the new stuff isn't as good as the old stuff for our "old" pumps.