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I run the silver bottle Power service. I think it runs a little better... . hard to tell when you always use it.

I've also used the Howes.

Either one seems about the same.

I run straight #2 year round.

Eric
 
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I use the power service. Not sure if it helps a lot, maybe just peace of mind knowing the pump is geting a little more lubrication.



Robin
 
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As I read the CUMMINS reply it basically says treat the fuel, but we did not tell you to do it.



Bob Weis
 
Another reason to use additive is the low sulpher fuel, sulpher has a high lubricity so in 2006 when the fuel has to be almost no sulpher per gov regs the additive will be manditory to your fuel system for longivity. I use PS , Howes or Stanidyne on every tank and yes it does pay for itself in milage gains alone let alone parts replacement costs.



Cheers, Kevin
 
yes the process of pulling the sulfer out of the fuel does decrease its lubricity, however, fuel manufacturers are taking steps to add lubricity back to the fuel to compensate. I doubt you would ever see fuel additives mandatory from the factory.
 
Fuel manfactures might be puting lubricity back in but when and how? The fuel I am buying right now could be LSF and my pumps could be in a problem. I don't know of a way you can tell at the pump if it is LSF or not.



To be safe I use a lubricity additive, but I really do not know if I need it or not, but I am not willing to bet, so I do.



Cheap insurance.



May not be mandatory, but it is not mandatory for a dealer to replace the pumps either.



Bob Weis
 
Bob, I think if the refiners weren't adding lubricity back you'd see bunch of trucks along side the road and hear a lot of people complaining.
 
Doubleclutch my local LE rep called a few weeks ago and mentioned to me that they have developed a new fuel additive. The 2400 that i use apparently does not contain a cetane booster or some specific algae preventative. I asked if i had the new stuff, and read him the bottle and he said no i did not. This new stuff is supposed to be a one time good deal for it all, the lubcricty, cetane, antigel... . the whole works.



So i can't specifically answer whether or not we use the same product, but the next time i order i will definitly ask about the "new" stuff my rep told me about. I order it by the case directly from LE. I have not been able to find a dealer in my area or on the net. It's kind of spendy at about 135 bucks shipped, but i've had my case for a year now and still have plenty left.



A bottle does 125 gallons, at 24 bottle a case, well you can see it'll last for some miles.



And about the LSD, bill is right, if lubricity was absent, there would be tons of trucks broken down and the problem would be addressed very fast. I've been reading up on ULSD for some time and the lubricity issue is a major one the companies have been looking at from day one. They wouldn't be tarnishing they're name for being blamed for taking down entire fleets of diesel pickup's, it's not good business. But if you need a reason to buy an additive then go ahead and believe that oil companies are out to get us all and make bad fuel so we all buy new injection pumps every month.
 
Hi guys I'm new to the TDR but have some info that might be of

interest to you. I have a good friend that has been a diesel mechanic, authorized Cummins warranty center and one of only

a couple people in the area that rebuilds and calibrates injector

pumps on pump dynos. He's been doing this for 35 years and

mentioned that lately (like within the past year) he is seeing

an increased failure of the injector pumps due to the "rack" being

gauled. He says that this is due to the lack of lubricity in the

fuels. In fact just today he rebuilt a Gleaner combine pump that

had this very problem. He spoke with other guys he knows that

also rebuilds pumps and they are seeing the same thing. So

just because you're not seeing trucks dead along side of the

road doesn't mean the problem doesn't exist. Just my . 02

worth.



Thanks,

Rob
 
Welcome Rob! :) Where abouts is your buddie's shop? One of the last things Kevin Dinwidde from LE mentioned at May Madness was the need to use a lubricity enhancer in the fuel suppliment you use. Guess you're friend confirmed Kevin's advice.

Greg
 
Rob,



Our TDR club has met at two major central florida pump rebuilders and they are saying the same thing. More pumps to rebuild than ever before. Both are adding a second shift to their rebuild operations.



I get the general feeling that it may take time until the fuel delivery system has the lubricity rebalanced to the LSF. The concern is we are in the rebalancing window right now real time.



Cheap insurance, and it makes me feel better to add it :)



Bob Weis
 
Thanks for the welcome. My buddies shop is in Columbus Oh.

He does a lot of work on buses, trucks and ag equipment. He's

convinced me to add it. I know from looking at the Cummins

website that they officially don't recommend any fuel additives

but I wonder if they sell any or use any in their shops.
 
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