Engine/Transmission (1998.5 - 2002) Fuel filter between tank and lift pump advice

[DavidC]

Any of you guys using a filter between your tank. What kind. where did you get it and where is it installed?. How often do you change the filter?.



Dave

 

[Gary - K7GLD]

I'd be sorta leery of doing that, unless there was also a supplemental pusher pump of some type to assist in maintaining fuel flow and pressure - there are potentially enough other impedoments to fuel flow in the stock system, without adding still another...

 

[DavidC]

Yes Gary I know that, I just removed the Da***d one in the tank that was completely waxed up. So now that that one is gone I am trying to find an external now that I do not have to drop the tank for that again. Racor recommend a 690R30 which is pricey and they want quite a bit to part with the filter also. I have an email to fleetgaurd tech support in the works for their recommendation but probably will not hear from them till at least monday. Thought that in the mean time I would fish around here and see if anyone has a recommendation for a free flowing filter that they are using. The in tank original was not more than tissue paper so I do not need much for a stock set up if anything. The only thing that bothers me is there is not anything between the tank and lift pump.



Dave

 

[Gary - K7GLD]

In that case, Dave, I'd probably try for a somewhat "open" and less restrictive type filter - be sure to as for one that's diesel rated, some gasoline filter types use internal adhesives not compatible with diesel fuels. Basically, you are looking for what will be a less critical "pre-filter" to replace the relatively coarse one that used to be inside your tank - so that should be easily accomplished.

 

[JPereira]

I was looking into a glacier diesel fuel pump kit and saw a strainer they recomend to put between their pump and the tank. Sounded like it may be just what your looking for.



3/8" Fleetguard Inline Strainer

(Item No. FF5079)

$11. 99



Jeff

 

[DavidC]

Thanks Jeff I will look into it at the website now that I have a number.



Dave

 

[DavidC]

Thanks for the strainer tip Jeff as I have been looking at filter types. The Fleetguard may work although it appears to be a sealed can. I have come across another one. Take a look guys and let me know what you think.

http://www.enginegearonline.com/instforoildi.html



Dave

 

[JPereira]

David,



Looks good. . I like the idea of looking at what the strainer is catching and not having to buy additional cans down the road. . I am going to see if it looks like this can mount directly up to the Walbro pump I am looking into.



Jeff

 

[DavidC]

Jeff,

If you go this route I would recommend pulling your in tank unit and cut the mesh off it so that your not pulling fuel thru 2 strainers. Besides, you may be surprised at what is in there.



Dave

 

[Alphacowboy]

David, check out this thread http://turbodieselregister.com/forums/showthread.php?t=155393



scroll down to where I posted pictures of mysetup.

 

[DavidC]

Looks good,nice job. In my case with the lift pump still up front I am afraid a real filter may cause enough restriction to give me more headaches. I ordered the strainer, see how it works out. I am busy mowing yards, selling newspapers and holding card board signs at the freeway ramps to come up with the money for a Rasp. In my opinion being an electrician some things are better off being mechanical, and a diesel pump is one of them .



Dave

 

[lsenus]

David,

Having just spent $$$$ for a new VP and LP at the Cummings dealer I have decided to finally move the LP down to the rail. I've ordered one of the kits from one of the advertisers here. And after reading the "Pumps, Lines, and Whatnot" thread, and checking all sorts of configs on numerous sites like Barry Grant, Aeromotive, etc. , I've realized that there must be a filter pre-pump. I always figured and trusted, however stupidly, that the pumps were designed to handle that sort of thing. Most of the racing suppliers highly recomend a filter pre-pump to protect the pump. Makes sense to me. I've always put filters pre-pump on my race cars to protect those high $$ racing pumps.



My last LP had good presure, 14. 7 idle and 12. 5 at 70MPH @2500 RPMS, but no volume according to the Cummins boys. Once I took it apart, I found scoring between the rotor vanes and housing, leading me to realize that there was indeed trash coming into the pump from the tank, even with the stock "sock" on the pick-up.

I've got some new parts coming from my kit supplier mentioned above that will be testing for him prior to release to the general public. Sort of a "Beta" test.

This will hopefully deal with the flow issues, clogged in tank socks, presure, and volume to the VP44. I will also be adding a pre-pump filter. The Fleetguard unit FS1212 is, according to the Fleetguard website, designed for suction side applications, provides 20 micron filtration and water seperation duties. The spin-on style seems easy to change as well.

 

[DavidC]

It will be interesting to see what fleetguard has to say when they reply to my email on what they may recommend. I will let you guy's know even if it is for only information.



Dave

 

[lsenus]

It will be interesting to see what fleetguard has to say when they reply to my email on what they may recommend. I will let you guy's know even if it is for only information.



Dave

PLEASE keep us informed. I think we're all tired of having to cintinually buy pumps.

 

[SKneeland]

i cut the intank filter out, then put a 25 micron spin-on type filter on the suction side of my FASS

 

[DavidC]

Okay, Here is the skinny from Fleetguard. They recommend the FF5079 147 micron. They do not recommend a filter on the suction side of the lift pump (meaning a lower micron number). They also recommend using a dispersnt fuel additive CC2588 once in a while that will clear build up the tanks, lines etc. I told them the strainer when scraped with the finger nail was just like scraping your finger in a vaseline jar. They do not have any idea what this stuff is. I have ordered the serviceable unit from Enginegear as it is 3 inches wide and I can clean it. The FF5079 is a can and not serviceable. So far after removing the in tank mesh I am holding at 14 psi at idle where I was hanging around 9 before.



Dave