Engine/Transmission (1994 - 1998) fuel filter conversion

[WDaniels]

Ok guys, My 97 fuel filter leaks when its real cold outside and stops when it warms up. It's only a matter of time until it leaks all the time. I want to convert it to the spinon cartridge of the 95's and 96's. I searched and found a person who was going to do an Amsoil one. I PMed him but no response back. Does anyone know anything about what is needed and how to do this conversion? Any information would be great.

WD

 

[Shadrach]

Just order the filter head, threaded stud, FS1253 and the WIF sensor from your local Cummins parts dept for a 96 Dodge. If you need the part numbers I can supply them later. Shadrach

 

[johnls]

Is there any advantages to doing this other than easier filter changes? Any disadvantages? I would like to do the same thing. Part numbers would be great.

 

[Shadrach]

Check this out

https://quickserve.cummins.com/qs2/portal/parts/option_detail.html?path=/qs2/parts/99/t/06.04/ff9053

You will need items 5,6,8 and 9 as well as the WIF ( Water In Fuel ) sensor Fleetguard p/n 3831852-S and Filter FS1253 or upgrade FS19519. It is easier to get parts for the 94-96 system if you need them Shadrach

 

[Shadrach]

OK That didn't work. If you can access Quickserve the option is FF9053 other wise the part numbers are drain hose 3914948 2 washers 3963983 head 3925600 and stud for filter 3926481 Shadrach

 

[Crowhurst]

Thanks, Shadrach, that's very useful.

Nick.

 

[WDaniels]

Shadrach,

Any special instructions on the conversion, ie... anything to delete, reroute ect?

WD

 

[Vaughn MacKenzie]

I have a '96 and a '98 and think both have their hassles changing the filter ('98 has the same filter setup as the '97 Ram). The '96 is a pain with the screw-in WIF sensor/drain piece in the bottom of the cartridge. Gotta disconnect the wire and pull the drain tube off to make it easier to change out. Another thing I don't like about the drain on the '96 is it often leaks around the body of the piece you push up to drain fuel. When I drain fuel it often runs down the outside of the hose. I replaced the piece once but the new one does it too.

The '98 is a pain having to drop the housing down then pull the filter out. But between the two I think the '98 is slightly easier to do fuel filter changes on.

I have done some measuring to see if a 2000+ filter setup would work but I think clearances may be too tight because of the mechanical lift pump.

 

[Howard Durand]

I moved my filter from it's stock location early on with a PrimeLoc kit. Moved it again later when, for some reason, I decided to put in a Twin Ram intake.

It now resides in a home made bracket very near the firewall.

The original location is practically inaccessible. At least for old folks like me with short arms.

PrimeLoc discontinued the kit but has decided to make some more to accomodate the folks that want to keep these trucks forever.

I don't know how this would adapt to the filter base for the 97 but there is probably a way.

 

[Shadrach]

The 94-96 fuel filter set up is a total system replacement for the 97-98 system, that is take off the newer stuff and put on the older style. It can still be a pain to change just a different pain. The Primeloc system is nice. It keeps its prime, just fill up the new filter with fuel and put it on and start it up. Somewhere on this site I saw a 2000 style filter mounter on a 1st gen. The biggest problem adapting something else is space. The FASS and the Airdog systems are overkill for most - if you don't mind working in a wheelwell. Shadrach

 

[HEMI®Dart]

I tired to use the longer Fleetguard FS19519 on my '94. Big PITA. Had to just about grind off the push-up fuel drain flange off to get it to clear the lift pump rubber elbow hose. It still was a tight fit. Never used another FS19519.

 

[MLee]

Geno's is offering the Primloc kit for a limited time.

I custom built a mounting braket for mine and put it in the back corner by the hood hinge. Its in my readers rig photos.

Marv.

 

[WDaniels]

just ordered the filter relocation kit and getting rid of the 97 POS filter and going to the 96 setup.

WD

 

[SSage]

I put the primeloc set up on my 95 last year. It was a major pain to install for a big guy with long but thick arms. You need a skinny guy with long arms to get that screw on adapter in place. Attach the hoses to the adapter first before you put it on. My directions were very good, follow them exactly.



The primeloc was worth the cost to me, no regrets.

 

[WDaniels]

for a big guy with long but thick arms. You need a skinny guy with long arms to get that screw on adapter in place.

how bout a short fat guy with short arms?:-laf

WD

 

[Howard Durand]

It is not so hard to do if you remove the starter and disconnect the front drive line so you can swing it out of the way. You can actually get your arm and shoulder up high enough to make the job relatively easy.