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Spent some quality time huggin my Cummins this weekend after discovering a puddle of diesel under the engine. The culprit was the rubber return line from the injection pump. I learned a lot reading the many TDR posts on this subject, then learned a lot more when I waded into the job. Since this is such a common repair I thought I'd gather everything together in one post for the benefit of those who will be facing this problem in future.



1. Although there are many places where leaks can develop (fuel heater electrical connection, banjos atop fuel filter, metal lines where mounting brackets are welded on, etc. ), the short sections of rubber feed and return hose are very common failure points. If you haven't replaced yours yet, lay in an emergency supply of good marine diesel hose and stainless steel clamps (from any good marine supply shop or http://www.fostertruck.com/dodge/default.htm). I bought mine months ago, and was right proud to have 'em on hand when my truck went down on a weekend.



2. There are a million places where a leak might develop, and all of them are hard to reach, so the key to getting the job done right the first time is to visually observe the leak before you go tearing into the job. This is, however, easier said than done. There will probably be fuel all over everything on the left side of the engine block, so the pattern of wetness won't tell you much. With the engine running (and a fire extinguisher close at hand) I observed carefully with a million-candlepower flashlight, and could see a shower of droplets coming from under where the intake manifold forms a sort-of shelf just inboard of the injection pump. This narrowed down the possibilities to either the the steel-to-rubber junction on the return line (which was the culprit) or else the steel line itself coming off of the injection pump (which some folks have observed can develop a crack where the mounting bracket is welded on).



3. Replacing the return hose isn't any fun, but it also isn't near as bad as you might conclude from reading all the TDR posts on this subject. Essential tools include:

a. a mechanics inspection mirror on a long arm, so you can see what you're up against. Once you've laid an eyeball on the task your fingers can do all the rest.

b. a 9/32" socket with a short extension, on a small 1/4" drive ratchet (to loosen the existing hose clamps).



4. To replace the return hose, start by moving everything that's in your way. This takes only a few minutes, and greatly simplifies the task. This includes:

a. Intake air horn (remove). There are five bolts, which want a 10 mm socket on a short extension... some are long bolts and some are short. There's also a 10 mm bolt securing the oil dipstick tube to the intake. Loosen the bottom hose clamp from the rubber boot attaching the intake to the charge air tube (with a 7/16" deep socket). Once you've removed the intake mounting bolts, just rotate the assembly 90 deg. on the air tube, then pull it off. Stuff a clean rag in the air tube and put some Saran Wrap or something over the intake air heater.

b. Rear engine hoist point (remove)

c. Master cylinder (pull off of two mounting studs and lean it over toward the driver's fender; you don't need to disconnect the brake lines)

d. Fuel shutoff and heater solenoids (held by one sheet metal screw under the rubber hood gasket; leave their wires connected and just move them out of the way)

e. The big vacuum hose that attaches just behind the master cylinder

f. Fuel filter (remove)

g. Disconnect the big wiring harness plug that's in your way.

h. Starter (remove). The nut attaching the fat cable that comes from the battery wants a 15 mm socket. The nut attaching the thin wire wants a 5/16" socket on a 1/4" drive. The three funny-looking bolts that attach the starter to the engine block want a 10 mm 12-point box-end wrench. The starter is heavier than you would expect... don't drop it on your face.

Note that some have said you can gain access by removing the front left wheel well liner. I didn't try this because in my case it didn't look promising.



5. Now with an inspection mirror and bright flashlight you can easily visualize the clamp attaching the hose to the short metal tube coming off of the injection pump. You can reach this clamp either by laying on top of the engine or - less painfully - from beside the left fender while standing on a short stepladder (if you're a runt like me).



6. My clamp was real loose... it might have been this looseness, rather than a hose failure, that was causing my problem; I don't know. In a roadside emergency situation I might have just tried tightening this clamp if I didn't have any replacement hose with me. But if you can replace the hose, do.



7. Using the 9/32" socket on a quarter-inch ratchet, loosen the hose clamp. In my case, a firm, patient pull on the hose slowly slipped it off of the metal tube. Your mileage may vary, in which case use a utility knife to split the end of the hose.



8. You can see and reach the other end of the hose from under the truck, with your head where the starter used to be. Laying on a creeper I could just reach this clamp. Again, a firm steady pull popped it off of the metal tube.



9. Still from underneath the truck, with a needlenose plier pry open the bracket that secures the middle of the hose, and remove the hose. Don't be discouraged if the hose looks perfectly fine... mine did, but it was the source of the leak.



10. Still from underneath the truck, feed the new hose through the retainer bracket and up toward the engine... piece of cake! Slip the bottom end of the hose onto the metal line that runs to the fuel tank. Clamp 'er down good'n tight... the marine diesel hose needs and wants a lot of clamp pressure.



11. While you're down there under the truck, replace the corresponding feed hose, too (its right beside the hose you just replaced). This one's easy; you can see and reach both clamps from under the truck with the starter removed.



12. Install a new fuel filter (I prolly could have re-used the old one... it had only 3,000 miles on it... but my filter wrench leaves a slight dent in the filter's side, so I was superstitious about re-using it). Loosen the tiny bleed screw atop the front-most banjo bolt on the top of the filter mount, and pump the priming button (under the lift pump) 150 times or until fuel starts streaming out from around the bleed screw. Some folks swear by using a length of broom handle to pump this button, but I find this to be more trouble than its worth... just suck it up and pump! Tighten the bleed screw (it doesn't take much torque).



13. Mop up the engine block as best you can, then put everything back together. Take a wire brush to the threads of the five bolts that attach the intake air horn, then apply a thin coat of RTV to the threads before reinstalling. Torque these bolts to 18 ft-lb. I finally got around to installing new gaskets above and below the intake air heater (six bucks at the dealer), and I'm glad I did... gained 3 PSI of boost! Check your brake fluid level... my reservoir leaks when I lay the master cylinder over to the side.



14. Crank on the engine... it'll have to think about it for a while before it starts up, but it should start. Don't crank the starter for more than 30 seconds at a time, with 2-minute cool-downs in between these sessions. I've never needed to crank for more than 10 or 15 seconds before the Cummins wakes up.



15. With the engine running, inspect for leaks again with a bright flashlight. When you don't see any, smile and go get yourself a beer.
 
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Another Beer, after the 6 or so you've already drank doing this wonderful job.

Thanks for posting in one brief, do-it-yourself type post.



Curtis
 
One small note to add to the above. On my '95 the original clamps were the crimp type so I had to cut them off.
 
i just did a head gasket on my truck and took care of all of that fun crap while it was all in the open, i also replaced all of the seals on the banjo bolts around the fuel filter area with aluminum or copper, the rubber covered stuff was looking oily and bad, my return line was cracked and looked orignal but had screw clamps and may of been changed, the feed line had one crimp clamp and the other was a screw so it probably was orignal with 309k miles
 
WadePatton said:
I nominate this thread to the FAQ section.



Dittos on that. Great post, WBusa! Thanks for the good details. I am slowly gearing up to do this job myself, and this comes at an excellent time!
 
Wbusa,



I too join in the thanks. It was very timely. I've been experiencing intermittent cold start problems for several weeks. When I found and replaced a kinked supply line I thought I'd cured the problem, but it turned out that it didn't take care of it. Next, I changed the filter--still an intermittent problem. A few days ago I did a thorough inspection and found that the return line showed some fuel on it so I thought I'd replace it this week. Then your thread showed up with your statement--



6. My clamp was real loose... it might have been this looseness, rather than a hose failure, that was causing my problem; I don't know. In a roadside emergency situation I might have just tried tightening this clamp if I didn't have any replacement hose with me. But if you can replace the hose, do.

Well, that was certainly the case with mine. Both upper and lower clamps were very loose. I tightened them and I'll see if that takes care of the problem. I also stopped at NAPA and bought some 3/8" line to carry in case I still have a problem.



By the way, I'm able to get to the clamps and line without removing anything. I think a simple line change will be possible (famous last words??).



Gene
 
Joe G. said:
One small note to add to the above. On my '95 the original clamps were the crimp type so I had to cut them off.

Yes Joe, also on my 96 were the crimp type but not all of them. Only the hardest ones to reach. Go figure. I cursed DC out while trying to get them off. :-{} Mike
 
but if ya pull the head it takes like 10 minutes for both :-laf



MHalloran said:
Yes Joe, also on my 96 were the crimp type but not all of them. Only the hardest ones to reach. Go figure. I cursed DC out while trying to get them off. :-{} Mike
 
MHalloran said:
Yes Joe, also on my 96 were the crimp type but not all of them. Only the hardest ones to reach. Go figure. I cursed DC out while trying to get them off. :-{} Mike



But of course, on my 98 there appears to be no clamp at all--the flexible hoses don't look like "normal" fuel hose with any style of clamp--what's the deal with that? Guess I'm going to have to cut them off with a Dremel. :rolleyes:
 
Wow, what a write up... Seems like more of a job than what was necessary tho. .



I just removed the hard line from the inj pump (overflow connection), bent the tube up a little so I could get a mini-tubing cutter in there, and cut the tubing about 8-10" past the inj pump fitting. Then I flared on a 1/4" x 5/16" flare to barb adapter and put my new piece of marine hose on, and ran it back to another flare 3' from the tank. Havent dropped the tank yet, all original connections. . I strapped down the hose in a few key positions to minimize rubbing, but for how thick this hose is, I`m not worried.



Very little disassembly. . had it all done in less than an hour.



-j
 
WBusa said:
I finally got around to installing new gaskets above and below the intake air heater (six bucks at the dealer), and I'm glad I did... gained 3 PSI of boost!



WBusa, where exactly is the gasket below the intake air heater? Looking at my engine and the diagrams/pictures in the Haynes manual, I can see one gasket, between the intake heater and the intake horn that connects to the hose coming from the intercooler. I ordered that one from Cummins, and it alone was about 13 bucks. :confused: The only other gasket I see in the area is the one between the intake manifold (part of the head) and the manifold cover, which houses the intake heater and requires removal of the high-pressure injector lines to remove it.



Thanks for any info.



CTD12V



Edit: Do you still have the part numbers for the gaskets? Thanks.
 
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Yup...it's FAQworthy

Good post.

I did mine w/o removing a lot mentioned. Mostly because I'm a stubborn old SOB, and I was determined NOT TO remove all that crap!! :-laf

Removing the fuel filter did wonders for the job.

My truck is a 1998 12 valve.

Eric :D
 
HOWDY. .

I did the fuel line shuffle today also... one more step that I found helped me ALOT was remove the SHOCK an the TOWER,,,it gives alot of room an vision on things hiding in there... looking in over the wheel well.

(besides I had to change my shocks any way)



Mike In Maine
 
Hey, I'm just in the process of changing the lines on my 98 12 Valve, I bought the lines from Larry B, and changed the fuel filter today and was waiting to get some feedback before attempting to change the fuel Lines, as I have never done it before. I did replace the Starter Contacts from Larry B last year and they work great. Thanks for all your hard work and helping the rest of us do this task.

Again, Thanks,

Breed,

Tumble Reed Ranch

Dayton, Nevada
 
I did as tp0d did and just replaced the whole thing. Cummins has a barbed fitting for the OF valve and I just replaced everything all the way back with marine grade line. Old hard lines are just sitting in there and I will remove them if I ever need the pump off for any reason. Would really make my day if a hard line started leaking 10 days after I replaced all the soft sections!
 
Gene Arnold said:
I'm able to get to the clamps and line without removing anything. I think a simple line change will be possible (famous last words??). Gene



This is definitely one of those "your mileage may vary" issues. I'm a small guy with short arms and unusually low tolerance for things that get in my way; I finally learned a few years ago that fifteen minutes spent moving stuff out of the way frequently avoids hours of screw-ups, frustration, and busted knuckles, but I can easily imagine that others with longer arms, more joints-per-arm, and a cooler head could do without all the preliminaries. Anyway, moving stuff helps me gain greater familiarity with my Cummins, and gives me the opportunity to lay some anti-sieze on bolts that don't get turned very often. On the other hand, the more stuff you move, the greater the probability that you'll screw something up that was just fine until you started messing with it. My general rule of thumb is that if preliminary moves look like they'll take less than twenty minutes, total, I'll do 'em; if not, I'll either work around 'em or else bite the bullet and pay ole Walt down at the garage to do the job for me. Removing the fuel filter is probably the single really important preliminary to the fuel line procedure... the filter is smack-dab in yer way, takes only seconds to remove, and yer gonna need to re-prime the fuel system when yer done, anyways.



I'm really pleased to see how many folks have found this write-up valuable, and I'd like to encourage others to provide similar step-by-step instructions for other common repairs. The only problem with TDR... if it can be said to have any problems at all... is that there are so dang many posts to read on any one topic that it can take longer to read up on a repair than it takes to perform the repair itself. I'd love to see a whole TDR section composed of nothing but these step-by-steps. Anyway, if you found this useful, consider paying-it-forward by submitting one for another type of repair.
 
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