Fueling problem

[DavidC]

Arrived at Nicks this morning, unhitched 5ver. I do not think I could have done this alone this time. Removal wasn't to bad except for those funky clips on the fuel lines and electrical that has the red slide lock. Luckily Nick had some recent dealings with those and removed them. Removed the module, installed replacement. Hardest part was reinstalling the tank. I did replace both fuel lines and used clamps to get rid of the funky connectors, also reinstalled the strainer back into the line. Now Nick gets inquisitive and starts investigating the old module and I am so grateful he did. Now I cut the strainer from the original years ago. Nick opened another internal module and both of us were shocked to find another strainer inside of that.

That small round canister sits in the sump

And this is inside that cannister

Pretty much clogged up.
I can not thank Nick and Nora ( Nick's Wife ) for the help and hospitality they have given. They are genuinely down to earth folks. Like I said, I do not think I could have done this without Nick's help and I definately owe him big time.

 

[SnoKing]

Arrived at Nicks this morning, unhitched 5ver. I do not think I could have done this alone this time. Removal wasn't to bad except for those funky clips on the fuel lines and electrical that has the red slide lock. Luckily Nick had some recent dealings with those and removed them. Removed the module, installed replacement. Hardest part was reinstalling the tank. I did replace both fuel lines and used clamps to get rid of the funky connectors, also reinstalled the strainer back into the line. Now Nick gets inquisitive and starts investigating the old module and I am so grateful he did. Now I cut the strainer from the original years ago. Nick opened another internal module and both of us were shocked to find another strainer inside of that.

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That small round canister sits in the sump
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And this is inside that cannister
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Pretty much clogged up.
I can not thank Nick and Norma ( Nick's Wife ) for the help and hospitality they have given. They are genuinely down to earth folks. Like I said, I do not think I could have done this without Nick's help and I definately owe him big time.

Always good to get the follow up. I had a friend with a Bayliner sailboat that had a screen on the end of the diesel tank pickup tube. Came upon him doing about 3 knots in Samsun Narrows in in BC Canada and towed him to the dock, after a half a day we put the fuel line into a jug of diesel and the engine ran fine. Pulled the draw tube to find the screen soldered to the end to the copper tube, and it was plugged up with c r a p just like yours. We just remove the screen, and relied on the filter going forward.

 

[TFucili]

Great news. A tip of the Stetson to all.

 

[NIsaacs]

Had a good time with David today, we work well together. There is nothing easy about dropping a fuel tank, however, it went very smooth. His rigs are both like new, you can eat off the fender liners, of all places

After what we found in his fuel module, we are confident the truck is fixed. Since my truck has the same module, I am sure mine looks as bad. Fuel tank drop will be in my future, I am sure. I just had it apart for a sender replacement in February

 

[JR]

What a Great outcome to a bad beginning. I had no idea that was in there either, kinda crazy you guys are the first in the community to stumble across this.

 

[SnoKing]

What a Great outcome to a bad beginning. I had no idea that was in there either, kinda crazy you guys are the first in the community to stumble across this.

There are posts back in 2004-2006 time frame talking about the screen in the tank module. That was one of the reasons for the draw straw. Even saw myself in some of the treads. SnoKing

https://www.turbodieselregister.com/threads/fuel-gauge-still-inop-help.163522/#post-1557860

 

[DavidC]

There are posts back in 2004-2006 time frame talking about the screen in the tank module. That was one of the reasons for the draw straw. Even saw myself in some of the treads. SnoKing

https://www.turbodieselregister.com/threads/fuel-gauge-still-inop-help.163522/#post-1557860

Yes and I was one of the instagators of that topic but that was the screen on the bottom of the sump. None of us knew about the hidden one inside that module. You have to disassemble the fueling module to access it. Luckily Nick was inquisitive enough to do that.

 

[NIsaacs]

At least the Vulcan replacement doesn't appear to have a second screen, just the oem. The oem is mostly enclosed so it is hard to see the small screen canister. The silver item on the suction line appears to just be an adapter to take the place of the in tank pump. I think the module is used for both, with pump and without. Vulcan on the left and oem on the right. FYI, they don't come with the tank seal so be sure and order one!

 

[MGreer]

I have the module out of the tank trying to check that hidden strainer. How does the canister come out of the bottom of the module. The canister on mine looks like it's gray metal.

Thanks

 

[NIsaacs]

I have the module out of the tank trying to check that hidden strainer. How does the canister come out of the bottom of the module. The canister on mine looks like it's gray metal.

Thanks

It is just a snug fit, I popped mine out with a punch from the bottom. You will need to remove the bottom basket strainer to get access. However, it is really easy to rip the screen because the little valve is clipped to the bottom of the module. I had already removed my valve and screen. The hard part is installing the little canister back in the bottom of the module. I used a prybar with a curved tip and the heal of my hand to push it back together. Same for the metal lock ring. It is a pain because you are working through the openings in the top half of the module. Here are some pictures.

 

[MGreer]

That's what I thought but wasn't sure. I already have the module separated but wasn't sure how the canister is fastened. Thanks for the reply and pictures.

 

[MGreer]

I got it apart and the screen was clean on mine. When putting it back together I used a 15mm crows foot on a 3/8 inch extension on top of the canister. It made it easy to push the canister back into its hole.