G-56 issue from a Dealer side

[GFrance]

Gee maybe the guys that got their g-56 will have a colectors item. Only a few released in 2005. Hope they get this ironed out because I want to buy one more ctd before I retire. I was really leaning towards a manual next time.

 

[swexlin]

just bought another SRT 10 so looking to unload my CTD. Truck is spotless, and the AFE and Edge box just installed last week is part of the deal. This truck is cleaner than when purchased.

Dear Lord, another?? In the past year, you have bought an 04. 5, which you traded for the 05, at which time you bought the first SRT 10. They are nice. My dealer has a Solar Yellow reg cab SRT 10 on his showroom floor, sitting next to a Graphite Viper. The was about $130,000 total for both! If I had your money, I would have been out the door with them both, too!

 

[hasselbach]

Dear Lord, another?? In the past year, you have bought an 04. 5, which you traded for the 05, at which time you bought the first SRT 10. They are nice. My dealer has a Solar Yellow reg cab SRT 10 on his showroom floor, sitting next to a Graphite Viper. The was about $130,000 total for both! If I had your money, I would have been out the door with them both, too!

Thanks for keeping track



The reason I'm swapping is Dodge pulled the adjustable pedals right before my 05 came in, and its a pain in the tail to get the clutch to the floor with my little legs... I've really enjoyed driving the SRT10 too. Its a fun truck to drive. I just wish Tim would take my truck now so I don't have to worry about selling it

 

[hasselbach]

Gee maybe the guys that got their g-56 will have a colectors item.

That's what they thought about the Edsel. .

 

[Tim]

That's what they thought about the Edsel. .

I think that's the wrong answer and the wrong way to look at this. You have no clue if it'll be sucessful and neither do I. I think it's wrong to assume it'll fail.

 

[MABurns]

I didn't read the whole thread because of time constraints.

Consider yourself lucky.



Having read the whole thing... ... how does that saying go... ... I have nothing to say.

 

[hasselbach]

I think that's the wrong answer and the wrong way to look at this. You have no clue if it'll be sucessful and neither do I. I think it's wrong to assume it'll fail.

No, Tim's right. Dodge is going to figure out the dual mass flywheel problem in no time (even though no one else has been able to make one live). Everything is going to be alright, and your new red 05 6-speed is going to be delivered right to your door this week. .



Actually, I'm glad that the G56 is stopped production right now. I have received a slew of requests for my NV5600 right now which I'm selling. . Its almost like owning beach front real estate in Florida or California The bids keep increasing. .

 

[Tim]

There are plenty of NV 5600 trucks on lots across the nation, that's not an issue.



I think it's wrong to say, "Nobody has made it work before, so it can't work. " That like saying you try, and you fail, so the moral of the story is never try. That is totally wrong. The moral of the story is try harder next time.



There is no conclusive proof as to what the problem is with the G-56 trucks as of right now. For all you know it could be a leaking input shaft seal causing contamination of the clutch. Or loose bolts..... or a whole slew of other problems.



One thing is for certain. My truck is in Centrailia, Illinois. It got off the train last week, on the 28th of March. Chrysler still hasn't sent anyone to pick it up. It's sitting there waiting. It's down in a parking lot at the Union Pacific railyard.



Now as to what they're going to do with it or when it'll be picked up... . I have no idea, but I hope to know soon.



5th gear has been falling off of NV 4500s for years now. You never hear everyone coming here telling you what a piece of crap an NV 4500 is because that is simply not true. The automatics in these trucks are more failure prone than a T-5 would be behind a Diesel. To totally discount the unknown as worthless is not logical.

 

[macdaddy]

Wait a minute, Wait a minute



Tim

To say the automatics in these trucks are more failure prone than a T-5 is going to far!!.

I got 80K trouble free miles out of a 47RE in my 99 and that was with 21 GCW. I'll take a 47 or 48RE anyday over a GM 4L80E, allison 1K, Or Ford E4OD,4R100, or the Torque Shift for that matter. IMO.



Mac

 

[daveshoe]

It's funny what life throws at ya' I first drove the Duramax when they first became available. It was really quick and impressed me a lot. I have always been a manual transmission guy,but after driving my '92 chev that was geared way too tall,I did not trust GM to have this problem fixed as a manual transmission is so rarely ordered in their trucks. I talked to their dealer locator and it would mean a five hour [one-way] trip to Flint Michigan to find the closest truck available for test drive.

I drove 20 minutes to the nearest friendly Dodge Dealer for a test drive to find plenty of test mules,lurked on TDR to gain knowlege,drove an hour to buy a cab & chassis ,and have been ever since!

 

[hasselbach]

There are plenty of NV 5600 trucks on lots across the nation, that's not an issue.



I think it's wrong to say, "Nobody has made it work before, so it can't work. " That like saying you try, and you fail, so the moral of the story is never try. That is totally wrong. The moral of the story is try harder next time.



There is no conclusive proof as to what the problem is with the G-56 trucks as of right now. For all you know it could be a leaking input shaft seal causing contamination of the clutch. Or loose bolts..... or a whole slew of other problems.



One thing is for certain. My truck is in Centrailia, Illinois. It got off the train last week, on the 28th of March. Chrysler still hasn't sent anyone to pick it up. It's sitting there waiting. It's down in a parking lot at the Union Pacific railyard.



Now as to what they're going to do with it or when it'll be picked up... . I have no idea, but I hope to know soon.



5th gear has been falling off of NV 4500s for years now. You never hear everyone coming here telling you what a piece of crap an NV 4500 is because that is simply not true. The automatics in these trucks are more failure prone than a T-5 would be behind a Diesel. To totally discount the unknown as worthless is not logical.

Really? Plenty NV5600's? That's not what I'm hearing from those that are contacting me, but then again, what do I know?



But my inside sources at Dodge (owner of a big dealership) was advised that the dual mass flywheel was having significant problems and he was ordered to pull all G56's until further notice.



Maybe its only a precaution, but that's what I heard. I'm sure Dodge will fix whatever the problem is and begin to release all the 05's soon. .



Yeah, that's the ticket... :-laf

 

[Tim]

To say the automatics in these trucks are more failure prone than a T-5 is going to far!!.

I got 80K trouble free miles out of a 47RE in my 99 and that was with 21 GCW. I'll take a 47 or 48RE anyday over a GM 4L80E, allison 1K, Or Ford E4OD,4R100, or the Torque Shift for that matter. IMO.

I'm glad you have had good luck with yours. If forced to choose, I would take any one of the transmissions you listed there over a 47 or 48RE.

Really? Plenty NV5600's? That's not what I'm hearing from those that are contacting me, but then again, what do I know?

They're just not looking hard enough I guess. Tomeygun has at least a half dozen on his lot right now.

But my inside sources at Dodge (owner of a big dealership) was advised that the dual mass flywheel was having significant problems and he was ordered to pull all G56's until further notice.

The general sales manager spoke with the regional rep and none of them had that information last week, I find it hard to believe. Like I said a lot of things could cause clutch problems, not just the flywheel.

Maybe its only a precaution, but that's what I heard. I'm sure Dodge will fix whatever the problem is and begin to release all the 05's soon. .

I'm sure they will, and I'm sure it'll be fine.

 

[Tomeygun]

Really? Plenty NV5600's? That's not what I'm hearing from those that are contacting me, but then again, what do I know?

Tims right, I have like 6 of them left - Funny thing is that one around here understands that there are two 6-spd (non-tdr members :-laf )

 

[hasselbach]

Tims right, I have like 6 of them left - Funny thing is that one around here understands that there are two 6-spd (non-tdr members :-laf )

Tomey, until I sell my 05 6er, can you park your supply of NV5600's behind the lot, just for a short time? It will help on my resale...

 

[Rick@TAD]

This just from Dodge today.



The 6spd Manual Transmission (DEG) is on a material restriction, and has been turned off Tops. There are a large number of orders that are in BE (edit error) status with DEG. Orders that remain in BE with DEG will be cancelled on Friday Apr. 8th, 2005.



Way this is looking is that DC will not be building any more 6spd for 2005. This is my guess. But lets hope not this will hurt my business.

Greg

My sources say you are probably right on no more '05 6-speeds. I currently have 112 of them sitting in Spokane. "Rumor" has it that new trannys will be produced and DC techs will replace the existing ones with new as part of the "factory production" thereby avoiding complications with Lemon Law and repair amounts exceeding same.

 

[FATCAT]

My sources say you are probably right on no more '05 6-speeds. I currently have 112 of them sitting in Spokane. "Rumor" has it that new trannys will be produced and DC techs will replace the existing ones with new as part of the "factory production" thereby avoiding complications with Lemon Law and repair amounts exceeding same.

What "new" trannys are going to be produced? G56's or some other type?

Isn't the problem with the trucks the G56 transmission itself? What good would producing "new" problem trannys solve? Or are they going back to the NV5600?



I'm sure that there will be hundreds if not a few thousand orders canceled due to the delay ... then there will be thousands of unsold trucks sitting on lots which no one wants.

 

[RustyJC]

I'm sure that there will be hundreds if not a few thousand orders canceled due to the delay ... then there will be thousands of unsold trucks sitting on lots which no one wants.

Worse yet, if this is indeed true, how would you like to be one of the lucky individuals who has already taken delivery of a G56-equipped truck?? :{ :{



Rusty

 

[Rick@TAD]

My sources tell me they will replace the bad bearing in the "new" transmission and send them out with the teams to replace on site at the railhead or designated storage site. Logistically that could take a long time! As to those who have already taken delivery... it is interesting that we have not had as many trannys crash as I would expect, given the full stop on delivering from the railheads. Makes me wonder as to the actual severity of the problem.

Trying to look at this from an optimistic viewpoint,(and looking into my crystal ball) if they fix the problem, you may see some hefty rebates to move these trucks... given they will be well into the '06 model year before all of them "get the treatment".

Even if they fix the bearing problem, you still have a somewhat noisy dual mass pressure plate that could be a time bomb waiting to go off.

 

[Ol'TrailDog]

I think I'll have to give my 04 305/555 another hug tonight.

 

[Suthers]

My sources tell me they will replace the bad bearing in the "new" transmission and send them out with the teams to replace on site at the railhead or designated storage site. Logistically that could take a long time!

This is why I am going to cancel my G-56 and why today I drove to St Louis to see my man Tom. He had just the truck I was looking for (nv5600 and all the other goodies I had ordered on my other truck) and gave me a great price also. Sure can't beat his service. Thanks again Tom!!! Oo. Oo. Oo.