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Chrysler Puts Hold On G-56 Equipped Deliveries

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Does anyone really know what the issues are yet? The truck is still sitting in a rail yard somewhere and the dealer has no arrival date or any other info for that matter. Thanks, Jeff
 
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1) Get some coffee or your favorite adult beverage.

2) Do a search on G56 on the forums here.

3) Don't take it out on your wife, dog, or any close friends.
 
According to my sources in DC, the main issue is the rear bearing in the transmission "exploding" (thier phrasing) after a couple thousand miles. Also the dual mass pressure plate has failed on some. We have not seen any explode but do have some pressure plate failure. Currently there are 250 6-speeds sitting in the Spokane, WA ramp. The possibility is all these rigs will go to auction with no warranty. All new orders for '05 2500/3500 will be cut off as of 4/13 at 11:00 Pacific time. My guess is the '06 will available for order sooner than normal.
 
I must say I am very puzzled, if they did start building 06's like mentioned what would they do for manual transmissions?? I doubt they would go back to the tried and proven one that would be like admitting they screwed up!!
 
Rick@DSM said:
The possibility is all these rigs will go to auction with no warranty. All new orders for '05 2500/3500 will be cut off as of 4/13 at 11:00 Pacific time. My guess is the '06 will available for order sooner than normal.



Wow, is there a possibility of that Rick, thats insane!! Talk about taking 250+ sales of your most profitable vehicle right square in the derriere. Wouldn't it be better to put the engineering staff on O/T and find the solution and fix these problems at the dealer when they finally get there?? Its pretty discouraging, hopefully they get everything ironed out soon. Remember back in '03 when you couldn't get an Auto with the H/O, imagine if you can't get a Manual, only an Auto :--)
 
imagine if you can't get a Manual, only an Auto



I'm sure that Dodge and the dealers would be thrilled with that solution. Seriously, it would be just like the Ford and Cheby dealers where there are no manuals to be found. Keeps the inventory simple.



If I had to replace my truck, and I couldn't get a good manual transmission in a Dodge, I don't know what I'd do.
 
klenger said:
If I had to replace my truck, and I couldn't get a good manual transmission in a Dodge, I don't know what I'd do.



Now you're beginning to understand the dilema I'm in.
 
I think you are doing the right thing by waiting for now. If you were using the truck for business and had to have it, you would be forced to do something, but since you can wait (even though it hurts), you should be able to get the truck you want.
 
My local dealer says the ones on his lot are ok. Also spoke to a salesman last week from DAVE SMITHS and HE SAID they have a fix and the 7/70 will cover you? My local dealer said the warranty does not cover the clutch. SO much for a honest answer. And I,m in the market for one now but I,m scared to buy one because of it.
 
Regarding DC going back to the NV-5600, I don't think that is going to happen.



My understanding is that the machining tools and equipment used to build the NV-5600 have all been sold and the plant is now making another transmission.



I know I'm not the only one that thinks DC, really, blew-it by going to a different transmission.



I wonder when DC is going to think that they have a better idea when it comes to the Cummins? Actually, I wouldn't be surprised if it was in the next few years.



Joe F. (Buffalo)
 
I went on EBay last night, there are low mileage 05's with nv5600 for sale, some new too. A ton of 04. 5's for sale. Buy a used one, hold it for a year until this works itself out, and trade it in on a 06, the depreciation of the used vehicle that you buy now in one year will be far less than the depreciation of the 05 that you bought new anyway.
 
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klenger said:
If I had to replace my truck, and I couldn't get a good manual transmission in a Dodge, I don't know what I'd do.



I know exactly what I'd do: go buy one on the lot with an NV-5600 before they're all gone (won't take long now!).



If I had to, I'd even buy a slightly used one before going to an auto again, but that's just me.



Dave
 
LDobie said:
Wow, is there a possibility of that Rick, thats insane!! Talk about taking 250+ sales of your most profitable vehicle right square in the derriere. Wouldn't it be better to put the engineering staff on O/T and find the solution and fix these problems at the dealer when they finally get there?? Its pretty discouraging, hopefully they get everything ironed out soon. Remember back in '03 when you couldn't get an Auto with the H/O, imagine if you can't get a Manual, only an Auto :--)

The problem as told to me is with the various states Lemon Laws. There is a dollar amount you cannot pass without disclosure statements being signed. A lot of you would not take a rig you had to sign a disclosure statement of damages on. DC would have to fix the rig on site and declare an ongoing production process to get around that. There is a rule about not declaring "bolt on" parts but not sure if the states would let that slide. The question in my mind is whether or not DC wants to spend the extr***** on the chance everybody will accept the "fix". It's a can of worms no matter how you look at it.
 
Rick,



I guess I wonder about the G56-equipped trucks that have already been delivered. Why would one think that they are any different in configuration than the ones currently being quarantined? I wonder why Dodge differentiates between them (i. e. , the delivered trucks are apparently OK (???) but the quarantined trucks are not)?



Rusty
 
RustyJC said:
Rick,



I guess I wonder about the G56-equipped trucks that have already been delivered. Why would one think that they are any different in configuration than the ones currently being quarantined? I wonder why Dodge differentiates between them (i. e. , the delivered trucks are apparently OK (???) but the quarantined trucks are not)?



Rusty

That one has me really stumped. Out of the 500 or so we have delivered, we have only seen the normal number of problems. Only 5 so far have shown signs of the dual mass pressure plate failure. Of those we have only seen 1 in our shop while the rest are spread out all over.
 
If it is the bearing that is bad, they will replace the bearing or transmission. This transmission is out there being used by the people that took delivery before they put them on hold. I can't recall anyone that has one that failed. They are not going to scrap a transmission program for a bearing problem. My guess is there was a process problem building them, and they can't get their arms around the scope of the problem. I know the people that are patiently waiting for orders will disagree, but I think DC is doing the honorable thing by figuring the fix before the customer gets it.

And if it is a bearing, it is probably the same bearing that is used in other applications. The chances that a manufacturer would design an all new bearing when there is something off the shelf are slim to none, and slim just left.
 
sag2 said:
If it is the bearing that is bad, they will replace the bearing or transmission. This transmission is out there being used by the people that took delivery before they put them on hold. I can't recall anyone that has one that failed. They are not going to scrap a transmission program for a bearing problem. My guess is there was a process problem building them, and they can't get their arms around the scope of the problem. I know the people that are patiently waiting for orders will disagree, but I think DC is doing the honorable thing by figuring the fix before the customer gets it.

And if it is a bearing, it is probably the same bearing that is used in other applications. The chances that a manufacturer would design an all new bearing when there is something off the shelf are slim to none, and slim just left.

AMEN to that. . Easier to fix now than later...
 
I just got mine last weekend... I do get some clutch noise only certain times. If I push the clutch in and release really fast it goes away. The truck only has a few hundred miles on it.
 
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