Gas in my diesel

[FEC]

I recently went to get fuel in my truck, the low fuel light was on. They filled truck with premium gas in new jersey. I drove the truck a mile and it satrted to back fire and idoling really rough. I got out of the truck and saw blue smoke coming out of the stacks. I looked at the temapture and seemed to be around 250 degrees. I am just wondering what harm was done to the truck. I will be going to court over this and I am seeing if I will have any future problems. I need some opinions to help back me up in court for this.







2005 dodge ram 3500

 

[nickleinonen]

They filled truck with premium gas in new jersey.

always pump your own fuel...

worse case. . entire fuel system needs to be changed [injectors, cp3, hp lines, rail, connector tubes, lp lines, lift pump]

best case, pump tank dry, fill up with 10 gallons fuel & pour in a full bottle of your favorite fuel system treatment and run it. .

use the worst case scenerao potential cost as leverage... [+10k in parts i guess]

 

[ANG012]

I don't know how it is now but several years ago I stopped in New Jersey for diesel. Pulled into gas station and started to pump my own and got the roit act read to me. In New Jersey at the time you can not pump your own fuel, the station has to do it.

 

[magothy1]

It was the same way this past February, don't touch that pump !

 

[Vaughn MacKenzie]

It was the same way this past February, don't touch that pump !

No kidding. . . I picked up the nozzle and next thing I know this female attendant comes LEAPING over to me and grabs it out of my hands . . . "You can't do that!" That was in Oregon, the other oddball state :-laf

FEC this probably didn't do much harm in that short of distance, but you'll definitely need to drain the tank and refill with diesel. And since the station should take care of it they oughta throw in a fuel filter replacement to boot. Since you're wanting to pursue legal action I assume you already went to the station and they are not willing to make it right? Did you ask them to put diesel in? I always make sure I say "fill it up with diesel" when I stop in Oregon.

Vaughn

 

[Blu-meanie]

I get out and watch them like I don't trust them, which I don't. Once they start pumping, I stick my nose into the filler to be sure. I do the nose test even when I fill my own.

 

[TFucili]

I recently went to get fuel in my truck, the low fuel light was on. They filled truck with premium gas in new jersey. I drove the truck a mile and it satrted to back fire and idoling really rough. I got out of the truck and saw blue smoke coming out of the stacks. I looked at the temapture and seemed to be around 250 degrees. I am just wondering what harm was done to the truck. I will be going to court over this and I am seeing if I will have any future problems. I need some opinions to help back me up in court for this.







2005 dodge ram 3500

Hey Bubba,

Kowboy told me what happened at the fuel pump. Before I moved I had stopped buying fuel there because some of those pump jockeys have a real attitude problem. I figured you got taken care of by now. Have you tried contacting Cummins or Bosch to get their opinion on the potential for fuel system damage? I wouldn't approach them from the angle of interjecting them into a dispute, but rather from a technical service one. Long shot, but worth a try.



Believe me fellas, when his duallie rolls into town with those stacks NOBODY could mistake it for a gas motor



Good luck, Bubba.



Tom

 

[CSkal]

Yep, NJ won't let you pump your own fuel, as per state law. With that said, Alot of the smaller stations will let you do it if they know you as a regular customer. Others are downright NASTY if you even look crosseyed at the pump handle...

 

[JasonCzerak]

Why is it illegal to pump your own gas in New Jersey?

In some cases, it's better to follow then to lead. The majority of the world can figure out how to pump fuel, why can't this state (and Oregon).

Absolutely retarded and to boot they put the wrong fuel in, love it. How did you contact to them to report the mis-fueling? Did they deny it?

 

[CogginsP]

I have never tried this but I have always heard that if you pump some gasoline into your car to put motor oil in the fuel tank. Regular diesel will not mix with the gasoline, but motor oil will. I guess this would only really work though if you pumped a small amount of gasoline into your tank!



Crazy to hear those New Jersey laws. If someone told me I couldn't pump fuel into my own truck I think I would have to hold myself back from smacking them.

 

[CPittman]

Always get and keep your fuel receipt just for cases like this! The fuel company will compensate you for repairs.



Bottom line, you don't (nor does the dealer - or other tech) have any idea how extensive the damage is until you experience problems later. Therefore, I would insist on new injectors, new lift pump, and a new CP3.



I got a load of trash diesel from Shell a year or so ago (labeled as Premium Diesel - har!) and the dealer just flushed the fuel system and cleaned the injectors. I haven't had any latent problems, but every time I hear something weird I wonder if the past is coming back to haunt me.



My repair bills were only about $600, but I saw the repair settlement for a powerstroke that had purchased bad fuel at the same time I did (sent to me by Shell - by mistake) and his repair bill was over $5,000.



So the oil companies will take care of you, just make sure you get everything handled now.

 

[TFucili]

Crazy to hear those New Jersey laws. .

That's a minor annoyance. You oughtta try living there!!#@$%!



Everything is taxed to death, except fuel I must admit, and everything you try to do, whether personal or business turns into some hassle with some petty tyrant type official. Communism at its finest.



Easily the most corrupt state in the union.

 

[Vaughn MacKenzie]

Crazy to hear those New Jersey laws. If someone told me I couldn't pump fuel into my own truck I think I would have to hold myself back from smacking them.

Speaking of NJ laws that state gets my vote for the most nonsensical highway law I have ever seen in my life . . . when driving across NJ on the 'pike in '04 we saw several "Fines Double in 65 Zone, and Other Violations" signs. WTH? Sounded like a free-for-all to get busted for anything the autorities wanted, with fines doubled of course.

 

[Nate]

I did that once in Oregon, I didn't even know there was such a thing until the attendant yelled at me.

You would think they would put big signs at the pump! I was 1/2 way done filling up by the time he even noticed.

 

[Msilbernagel]

I was told it was for job security (attendants), not safety.

 

[AKaiser]

I learned that in 05 when we were at Ft. Dix for mobilization to Iraq. That's just another reason to hate NJ. I did feel a bit at home when I went from Dix to Philly. Some sections of the country there felt like Indiana. To quote the classic old Hasidic New York Jew: "WHO KNEW?"

 

[JasonCzerak]

I was told it was for job security (attendants), not safety.

If you look at a few of the links on the ask. yahoo.com link I posted above. The columnist suspects that the time saved from you pumping your own fuel vs the "attendants" pay being flushed down the drain (the attendants sitting around watching you pump... . ) would save more money in time saved. 30 minutes to wait for fuel is ABSURD.

 

[B.G. Smith]

I recently went to get fuel in my truck, the low fuel light was on. They filled truck with premium gas in new jersey. I drove the truck a mile and it satrted to back fire and idoling really rough. I got out of the truck and saw blue smoke coming out of the stacks. I looked at the temapture and seemed to be around 250 degrees. I am just wondering what harm was done to the truck. I will be going to court over this and I am seeing if I will have any future problems. I need some opinions to help back me up in court for this.







2005 dodge ram 3500

I would not be too worried about the engine as it didn't run long on the gasoline but I would be very concerned about the injection pump and injectors. The CR injection system seems to be very sensative to lubricity/or lack thereof in the fuel. bg

 

[nickleinonen]

well. . not going to visit new jersey or oregon anytime soon then i am

i always fill my own fuel, even at full service stations. . if they start to complain, i keep pumping. they shut off the fuel, i tell them to turn it back on or get me the bill. .

 

[WM-300]

I get out and watch them like I don't trust them, which I don't. Once they start pumping, I stick my nose into the filler to be sure. I do the nose test even when I fill my own.

I sniff the end of the nozzle long before it gets anywhere near my fill pipe. So far, I have never found anything but diesel in a diesel pump, but I will always sniff anyway.



WM-300