Gee, maybe I should have got a dually!

[JUeckert]

How am I going to get to the dealer? There are no DRW taxis in town, only SRW.

stick that thumb in the wind,maybe a trucker will give you a lift!

 

[Ol'TrailDog]

Now we have made the leap from towing, weight advantages, and safety to width. Next we will hear from the folks who can't park. Actually most roads and two tracks will accommodate a DRW as well as a SRW. Especially if hauling a TT to the camp.



But then again we could go from the SRW to my jeep can go... . , from the jeep to my motorcycle can go..... , from the motorcycle to my bike can go... ... , from the bike to my horse can go..... , from the horse to my feet can go... ... . , from my feet to my plane can go..... But that would be silly.



At least we can humorously agree to disagree

 

[klenger]

There are way too many people taking this thread way to personal. I prefer a SRW, mainly so that I can park it in my garage, but I certainly understand the need for a DRW and respect the decision of those who choose to buy either. Let's save the rants so that we can beat up on the Ford guys or political issues.

 

[Katman]

Well, guess I started a lively chat here and I sure learned a lot. To close the loop: I'm keeping my new SRW. I figure I can find an acceptable 5th or TT within the capacity of the truck. That should suit me for the next couple of years. But... I took a spin in a dually and liked the feel, too. So, I'll be on the lookout for a dually. The spouse won't like it but there is nothing wrong with having two trucks! Darn nice group of people on this forum.

 

[AMink]

This is a great group, Skatsanos. Welcome aboard. Next, ask about which transmission upgrade is best, then which oil you should use! :-laf Really, though, there is enough knowledge here to make you very smart about your truck, no matter which one you pick.

 

[Texas Diesel]

Well, guess I started a lively chat here and I sure learned a lot. To close the loop: I'm keeping my new SRW. I figure I can find an acceptable 5th or TT within the capacity of the truck. That should suit me for the next couple of years. But... I took a spin in a dually and liked the feel, too. So, I'll be on the lookout for a dually. The spouse won't like it but there is nothing wrong with having two trucks! Darn nice group of people on this forum.

You think this is bad? Just ask which brand of oil is best :-laf Actually, DONT ASK. (we all know Royal Purple is best) Just kidding.



Nice thing about DRW vs SRW or _____ oil vs ____oil thread is you can go away for a few days and come back and not miss anything



Live long and prosper in your new SRW!!!!



The real answer is to own one of each (as long as they both are Dodge/Cummins), then you can argue on BOTH sides of the issue :-laf And run Amsoil in one and Royal Purple in the other.



Sheesh you could have everone mad at you at the same time.

 

[nps]

Hey - independent assessment from DC of a DRW versus the SRW Trex (original article ):

T-Rex Advantages over a 3500 Dually:

*Improved maneuverability with a narrower track than dual-wheel vehicles

*Tighter turning circle (2 feet less) than dual-wheel vehicles with comparable wheel base.

*Greater capacity payload (5,000 pounds with the potential to be increased).

*High tire flotation, due to increased tire contact patch.

*Improved handling on wet surfaces with less potential for hydroplaning.

*Better cornering stability on all surfaces.

*Improved ride and handling on highways.

Hummmmmm... ... . do I want dual SRWs or a DRW??? :-laf :-laf :-laf

 

[Texas Diesel]

I want one but only if it comes with two DRW axles :-laf



Some of their conclusions are silly.



Some stuff they didnt mention, greater tire scuffing on tight turns, greater payload? Greater than what? SRW?



Less hydroplaning? Really? How? 4 rear tires will have the same PSI of loading. :-laf



Gotta love marketing people, "mine is better than yours" or "mine is 30% bigger" bigger than what?



How about lower MPG due to weight of second rear axle?

 

[nps]

Some of their conclusions are silly.



Some stuff they didnt mention, greater tire scuffing on tight turns, greater payload? Greater than what? SRW?



Less hydroplaning? Really? How? 4 rear tires will have the same PSI of loading. :-laf



Gotta love marketing people, "mine is better than yours" or "mine is 30% bigger" bigger than what?



How about lower MPG due to weight of second rear axle?

What makes these thread so interesting is that whenever a person asks this question, it is the SRW crowd that makes the most noise.

Now who's making the noise! :-laf



The corner-turn scuffing on the rears was the first thought that came to my mind when I saw it.

 

[Texas Diesel]

Hey, I learned how to whine from you SRW guys :-laf



But the thought of a dual SRW, er, dual axle SRW, uh, dual axle - dual SRW truck makes me worry, they might call T-rex a modified SDRW or DSRW :{

 

[Boondocker]

It's a compromise either way. My 2500, Short box is not the ideal 5th wheel hauler. It does a darn fine job. But when towing, I could use another 2 feet of bed and a few hundred more pounds of GVWR... and a Mega Cab too!



For commuting and parking, I'm quite happy with the shorter wheelbase, shorter length, narrower track, better turning radius, etc.



I weighted the advantages to the majority of my driving and the disadvantages to the minority. I have a hard time being convinced that it makes more sense the other way around.



I have no idea what the perfect vehicle is, but a 10-car garage would be good start



Neil

 

[Jumbo Jet]

There are way too many people taking this thread way to personal. I prefer a SRW, mainly so that I can park it in my garage, but I certainly understand the need for a DRW and respect the decision of those who choose to buy either. Let's save the rants so that we can beat up on the Ford guys or political issues.

To me it is not so much personal as it is stating facts from many years of experience.



A lot of people want to argue with facts with their "feelings"



Saying that all people that have a SRW rear tire blowout is headed for the 'cemetary' is just baiting or stirring the pot!

 

[RustyJC]

To me it is not so much personal as it is stating facts from many years of experience.

... and trying to explain why it's best in the long run to get the right tool for the job.



Rusty

 

[RJOL]

I'll say it again... If you thinking of towing a 5th wheel that's over 30', especially with a bedroom slideout, or your going to load a camper that's 10+ feet long, you need a dually. You can ignore the facts, mitigate the situation with air bags, shocks, and a 19. 5 Rickson set up, but I would guess that most don't. I suggest that your stock tires are the weakest link. You will probably be overloading them with any of the above 5th wheels or camper. If you only go out a few times a year then maybe you will be alright. After all, there are six chambers in the revolver and only one bullet. If you ignore the facts, please pass me on the opposite side of the freeway going the opposite direction...

 

[nps]

Jeez... a group hug, a little humor, and now we are back to a 'mine is bigger' debate.

 

[Texas Diesel]

:-laf NPS, you kill me

 

[Foil Freak 1211]

I'll say it again... If you thinking of towing a 5th wheel that's over 30', especially with a bedroom slideout, or your going to load a camper that's 10+ feet long, you need a dually.

If you take a look at the actual pin weight on most 5ers, including those over 30' with bedroom slide outs, you will see that you are still well within Dodge's published weight limits, and within the limits of the tires. To be blunt, you are flat out wrong that "you need a dually" to pull these trailers. I don't know where people are getting the idea that a 32' fiver with slides has a pin weight of 3k or more. I've had two of my own trailers on scales, as well as know two friends that have put them on scales, and pin weight is less than 20%, easily putting them within weight capacity.



If you are pulling a BIG three axle Teton or Toy Hauler, a dually might be a wise investment. Forgive me, but I'm tired of hearing that a SRW truck in incapable of loading to manufactuer stated capacity. #@$%!

 

[RJOL]

If you take a look at the actual pin weight on most 5ers, including those over 30' with bedroom slide outs, you will see that you are still well within Dodge's published weight limits, and within the limits of the tires. To be blunt, you are flat out wrong that "you need a dually" to pull these trailers. I don't know where people are getting the idea that a 32' fiver with slides has a pin weight of 3k or more. I've had two of my own trailers on scales, as well as know two friends that have put them on scales, and pin weight is less than 20%, easily putting them within weight capacity.



If you are pulling a BIG three axle Teton or Toy Hauler, a dually might be a wise investment. Forgive me, but I'm tired of hearing that a SRW truck in incapable of loading to manufactuer stated capacity. #@$%!

My 31' 1996 Alpenlite had a published pin weight of 2400+ lbs. I took it across the scales, and it was close to 3000lbs. That's where I got my facts from... . My new 31' 2006 HitchHiker has a published king pin weight of 1900lbs. Haven't had it across the scales yet, but I'll bet it weighs more then 2500lbs with the washer/dryer I added and closets full. Have a nice day...

 

[Jaysyl]

My 31' 1996 Alpenlite had a published pin weight of 2400+ lbs. I took it across the scales, and it was close to 3000lbs. That's where I got my facts from... . My new 31' 2006 HitchHiker has a published king pin weight of 1900lbs. Haven't had it across the scales yet, but I'll bet it weighs more then 2500lbs with the washer/dryer I added and closets full. Have a nice day...

RJOL, you mean an rv manufactur might not be truthfull with there pin weight, I cant belive that. :-laf :-laf . How about some pictures of your new rig? Did you get a queen or king bed?

 

[Jumbo Jet]

My 31' 1996 Alpenlite had a published pin weight of 2400+ lbs. I took it across the scales, and it was close to 3000lbs. That's where I got my facts from... . My new 31' 2006 HitchHiker has a published king pin weight of 1900lbs. Haven't had it across the scales yet, but I'll bet it weighs more then 2500lbs with the washer/dryer I added and closets full. Have a nice day...

For some reason, the Keystone published pin weight was correct for my 31' Laredo.



Now, I have added all sorts of things in the forward storage areas - 2 batteries, leveling blocks, charcoal grill, trash can, king pin stabilizer, sewage hose components, tool box full of tools, hydraulic jack, two small tables, extra water pump, water hoses, water filters, umbrella chairs, and how about that 50 lb. Kwikee Superslide storage unit, etc. I forgot about swapping out the queen bed for two full size twins and rebuilt the platforms with REAL plywood.



When I take it across the scales now, the pin weight all the way up to 1,815 lbs. DA@% lying RV manufacturer!