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It's pretty clear now that one of the pilots was locked out of the cockpit while the plane descended. There's even audio proof that the locked out pilot desperately tried to smash the cockpit door open.

What do you guys think that happended? Did the operating pilot have an medical emergency or was it suicide? Terrorism?
 
Here we go!!

I give one vote that the Pilot just went off his rocker, if it was some terrorism I personally think that it would have involved more than just 150 dead !!!
 
I give one vote that the Pilot just went off his rocker, if it was some terrorism I personally think that it would have involved more than just 150 dead !!!
Not necessarily. 150 people is still 150 people. And it does tend to terrorize the flying public. But.......I do agree with you. If it was terrorism, he would probably have announced his intentions, or hollered alli akbar or something like that over the radio.
 
Whatever caused this man to murder 150 people is beyond me. I do know this will be reason 1001 why this ole boy does not travel via airplane.
 
In today's (27 Mar 2015) newspaper the co-pilot hid his mental illness from his employer.

What I do not understand is why are there only two people in the cockpit flying the plane? What happened to the flight engineer? To me this is why the airline industry needs at least three people in the cockpit; so as one leaves to take a break there is always two people to respond to any issues.

Jim W.
 
Flight engineers have been gone for awhile now!!

My Question is WHY is it that to drive a truck you have to have all these medical evaluations and to fly an airplane your not looked over even more than just a flight physical


I TOLD YA THE GUY JUST WENT OFF HIS ROCKER!!!

I'm surprised that it wasn't brought up that he might be a Democrat, Commie loyal to a Postage Stamp with Adolf Hitler's Picture on it, and NOT want to sell his cup cakes to GAY people, by some of the guys in the Political Forum :-laf
 
It was mentioned on ABC News last night by John Nance, their air expert and a former airline pilot that, for this very reason, U.S. FAA regulations require 2 individuals in the cockpit at all times. If the pilot has to go to the head, then a flight attendant is required to be in the cockpit with the co-pilot until the pilot returns. He speculates that this disaster will force other regulatory authorities in Europe and throughout the rest of the world to re-evaluate their policies in that regard.

Rusty
 
Food for thought. We get a Canadian radio station here and they were discussing implementing a similar two in the cockpit at all times rule. When the guest expert was asked if he thought the two in the cockpit rule would prevent future incidents he brought up a valid point. If someone really wants to die and is willing to take a plane load of innocents with him how is having a stewardess in the cockpit going to stop him?
 
If someone really wants to die and is willing to take a plane load of innocents with him how is having a stewardess in the cockpit going to stop him?

Perhaps because the flight attendant could at least unlock the cockpit door?

Rusty
 
Whatever caused this man to murder 150 people is beyond me. I do know this will be reason 1001 why this ole boy does not travel via airplane.

Myself and Mrs. Q are heading to Florida in a couple weeks and i am sh***ing myself here. I am not much of a flyer as it is either...nor is my better half. Where the hell are all the Loonies coming from ??????
 
Perhaps because the flight attendant could at least unlock the cockpit door?

Rusty
The expert's response to that reasoning was along the lines of: Do you think the guy who's going to kill a plane load of people will have some aversion to taking out the flight attendant?

I think the two in the cockpit is a good idea. Will it insure something like that crash will never happen again? Sadly, no.
 
Nothing will ensure that a crazed pilot or co-pilot (or both - Malaysia Air flight 370) will never crash a plane again. All one can do is to try to make it as difficult as possible for that to happen. In this case, if the 2nd person in the cockpit had been able to unlock the cockpit door and let the Captain back in, there's at least a chance that this tragedy could have been averted.

Rusty
 
Apparently they have found a ripped up sick note in the co-pilots apartment dated for the day of the crash and he did not report a sickness to his boss. There have been reports of depression
 
If the guy was depressed, why didn't he simply off himself instead of taking the lives of people who are still enjoying life?
 
If the guy was depressed, why didn't he simply off himself instead of taking the lives of people who are still enjoying life?


Its called " THE GUY IS A WHACK JOB " There is no rational thinking, there is no reality only thought of Why did this happen to me, Why is everybody against me, Why does everyone hate me, Why does everyone think im Wrong


MUCH LIKE THE POSTS IN THE POLITICAL FORUM!!!! :-laf
 
He told a GF that his name some day would be associated with a change to the system! Someone on fight 370 over powered the second person there or also locked out that person. Snoking
 
I am fairly certain that medical qualifications for being a commercial pilot are more stringent than driving a truck.

One is also far safer flying that driving, but everyone is scared to fly over driving.

That being said certified whack job is a bit polite, don't you think :).
 
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At a glance it don't look to much different than the last DOT look see I had. Put the Third class requirements on as a reference to the class for commercial pilots

Third class certifications require the least involved examinations of all medical certifications. They are required for those intending to be pilot-in-command of an aircraft under the Private or Recreational pilot certificates or while exercising solo privileges as a student pilot. To qualify for a third class medical certificate, pilots must meet the following requirements:
Distant vision: 20/40 or better in each eye separately,[22] with or without correction
Near vision: 20/40 or better in each eye separately, with or without correction, as measured at a distance of 16 inches (410 mm)
Color vision: Demonstrate the ability to perceive the colors necessary for the safe performance of airman duties
Hearing: Demonstrate the ability to hear an average conversational voice in a quiet room, using both ears, at a distance of six feet, with their back turned to the examiner, or pass an approved audiometric test
Ear, Nose, and Throat: Exhibit no ear disease or condition manifested by, or that may reasonably be expected to be manifested by, vertigo or a disturbance of speech or equilibrium
Blood Pressure: Under 155/95
Mental Status: No diagnosis of psychosis, bipolar disorder, or severe personality disorders
Substance Dependence: No dependence on alcohol or any pharmacological substance in the previous two years

For pilots under 40 years of age, third class medical certificates expire on the last day of the month they were issued, five years from the date of issue. The FAA changed this rule from three to five years on July 24, 2008.[23][24] For all others, they expire on the last day of the month they were issued, two years from the date of issue.

Second class[edit]

A second class medical is required for those intending to exercise the privileges of the commercial pilot certificate. It is possible to obtain a commercial pilot certificate while holding a third class medical, but the licensee cannot exercise privileges beyond that of a private pilot.

To qualify for a second class medical certificate, pilots must meet the requirements for the third class certificate plus:
Distant vision: 20/20 or better in each eye separately, with or without correction
Intermediate vision: 20/40 or better in each eye separately, with or without correction, at age 50 and over, as measured at 32 inches

Second class certificates are valid until the last day of the month, twelve months after they were issued. The certificate holder may then only exercise the privileges of a third class medical certificate.

First class[edit]

First class certificates are required for those intending to be pilot-in-command in an air carrier operation requiring an Airline Transport Pilot (ATP) certificate. Other operations, including those under Part 91, may require a first class medical for insurance purposes, although it is not a federal requirement in such cases.

To qualify for the first class medical certificate, pilots must meet the requirements for the third and second class certificates plus:
Heart Function: Electrocardiogram must show normal heart function once at age 35 and annually for those age 40 and over

For pilots under 40 years of age, first class medical certificates expire on the last day of the month they were issued, one year from the date of issue. The FAA introduced this rule on July 24, 2008.[23][24] For all others, they are valid until the last day of the month, six months after they were issued. The certificate holder may then only exercise the privileges of a second class medical certificate until the last day of the month, twelve months after the certificate was issued, thereafter the privileges of a third class medical until the last day of the month, twenty four months after the medical was issued ( FAA $61.23 (d-1-iii) ).



WHACK JOB is Right!! what do you think that all of them are going to be obvious about it. I think that next time I fly I will look in the cockpit when im boarding to see if they are playing Russian Roulette with an Automatic before I pick my seat!!
 
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