Getting my Authority - Register with I.R.P or not?

[DBabbitt]

I am in the process of getting my authority to haul for hire. I am under 26,000 lbs so I don't need a CDL. I am getting my Single States Registration (for all states) through my home state of Colorado. My question is weather or not I have to register with the IRP (International Registration Plan) or not. I have heard it both ways, that you do and you don't if you're under 26k. The IRP website is confusing.



Anyone know for sure?

 

[Stake Man]

You may need a CDL. A class C Commercial liscence. It all depends on the state your in/hauling to. CA requires "for pay" haulers to have a CDL(and a log book-for any weight). As for IRP, I don't really have a clue. As a private carrier, we are registered with IRP.

 

[PatrickCampbell]

Dan,



The funny thing is that apportionment is supposed to be uniform across all states. What I have seen more often than not is that you DON'T need it unless you are over 26000 lbs.



I tried to find it on CO's website but could not. I would keep searching and find out what your home state says.



This is what NJ says:

Do I need an IRP (apportioned) vehicle registration?



"Apportioned Vehicle" means any vehicle, except recreational vehicles, vehicles displaying restricted plates, buses used in transportation of chartered parties, and Government-owned vehicles, used or intended for use in two or more member jurisdictions that allocate or proportionally register vehicles and is used for the transportation of persons for hire or designed, used or maintained primarily for the transportation of property and:



* Is a power unit having two axles and a gross vehicle weight or registered gross vehicle weight in excess of 26,000 pounds; or



NO.



* Is a power unit having three or more axles, regardless of weight; or



NO.

* Is used in combination, when the weight of such combination exceeds 26,000 pounds gross vehicle weight.



NO.



I spoke with a live person who said as long as I don't cross over the magical 26000 mark, no apportionment is necessary, even if I cross state lines. She also noted that while it's not necessary, it might save me some hassles on the road.



The people in NJ said I can't do IRPA (apportioned) without IFTA but other states don't suggest this. To me they should be completely different. I do not want to do IFTA so I am just not going to do either for now. I think if you do IRPA I think you have to keep track of the miles you travel in each state throughout the year.



More from NJ:

Vehicles, or combinations thereof, having a gross vehicle weight of 26,000 pounds or less and

two-axle vehicles and buses used in transportation of chartered parties may be proportionally

registered at the option of the registrant.

It's too bad the states can't get this all exactly the same

 

[DBabbitt]

Patrick, that's pretty much word for word the same thing on the IRP site. Pretty confusing huh? The lady I talked to here in Colorado when I got my SSRS told me I had to register with IRP but that was after I explained to her what IRP is! I called IRP and have left six (6) messages with the person who the receptionist keeps patching me through to but no return phone calls. I think I'm just gonna forget about IRP for now. So I'm ready to go! Finally after six weeks!!!!

 

[RVPILOT]

apportioned plates

When I leased on with Bennett and other rv haulers I chose an apportioned plate to avoid any hassel at port of entry's, their base plate was Illinois and Barrett was Oregon I guess it was easier to get registration in those states. When I de-leased I turned in my plate to California d m v and they never heard of a app plate on a pickup, da! moral? states vary in interpertation.

stormy

 

[woodsrat]

We haul out of ohio and they said i didnt need app. plates but when i came out of flordia with my first load the dot had other ideas. Cdl has not been an issue although i do have a class B. But you need a logbook and in flordia they said i had to have commerical plates even though my loads coming out of there are under 10000 lbs.

 

[PatrickCampbell]

In "theory" I do not think another state can't enforce registration/license plate issues if you are not an "apportionable vehicle. "



What was your GCWR woodsrat?

 

[GAmes]

I once stopped to get a permit to get thru NM. The gal there looked at my registration and declared that if I was from NM she would give me a ticket for not having commercial plates. Since I wasn't she charged me the $5. No one else in NM, or any other state has even mentioned it.

 

[MMeier]

i put them on my Ram, also set my tag for 34,200#, leaving Sunday to go through some states i haven't been through yet,( Utah, Colorado) Have 2 cars I'm hauling for some show in SLC Tuesday and Albuq. N. M. Thursday, then back to Cali friday! Gonna be a good week Oo.

 

[PatrickCampbell]

So, what does your truck/trailer combo weigh when you get one of those shipping containers on there? Any pics loaded up? Enjoy the road.

 

[jalex]

I no longer haul commercialy but have found states/officers kinda make the rules as they go (maybe just out of ignorance). I think the bottom line is they know that you can be dinged for a few bucks (reveneu) and you probably don't have time or funds to fight the fine. There should be a set rule book and everyone have a copy..... good luck on you venture. Jerry