Giant Diesel Equipment? Post 'em if ya got 'em pics

[BIGDIG]

Sitting over the Fort Point Channel

 

[Doc Tinker]

MI-12 Russian Helicopter - World's Largest?

 

[Doc Tinker]

About the Antonov 225:

· Stands 7 stories high

· 8 average size houses could fit inside its body

· 276 ft. long

· 290 ft. wingspan

· Has a potential flying range of 8,000 miles

· Maximum take-off weight is more than 650 tons

· Owned by Antonov Airlines in Ukraine, the Antonov 225 was originally built to carry the Soviet space shuttle

 

[Doc Tinker]

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[Hummin Cummins]

Its not giant but...

Pretty darn big to me. And it has twins

 

[JWhitcomb]

I live at the end of the runway of Moffet Field (Ames, NASA) and every now and then one of those big Russian flying trucks acts like it wants to land in my driveway. Very impressive airplane. My dogs hate the engine whine.

 

[tbrudder]

Originally posted by JWhitcomb

I live at the end of the runway of Moffet Field (Ames, NASA) and every now and then one of those big Russian flying trucks acts like it wants to land in my driveway. Very impressive airplane. My dogs hate the engine whine.

That's probably a C-5 or a C-141. The An-225 above is the only one in existance (to my knowledge--they may have built another), as the Russian Buran space shuttle only had one spaceflight (an unmanned one, at that).



Unless NASA got a deal on some cheap used Antonovs or Ilyushins, I'd bet you're seeing a Galaxy, made in Marietta by Lockheed, which is not quite as big, but will haul two sixty-ton M1 Abrams tanks around.



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(And it runs on JP-4/5, so it pretty much qualifies as big diesel equipment... )

 

[WDaniels]

tbrudder,

The C 5B only carries one M1A at a time due to it's weight restrictions and it now runs on JP8.

WD

 

[tbrudder]

The JP8 sounds better than JP4, now that I think about it.



But I was fairly certain that the initial design was to carry _two_ Abrams.



The only source I have handy gives a maximum combat payload of 291,000 lbs.



The M1A2 Abrams MBT' comes in at 68. 7 tons, or 137,400 lbs. Two of them comes to 274,800 lbs, leaving about 8 tons of useful payload left.



Don't have any figures for non-wartime payload, but max gross weight is about 71,000 lbs less.



I'm guessing that's the difference in our figures. Under non-combat conditions, (whether because of civil airspace regs, or attempts to limit airframe fatigue) the load rating is not sufficient to carry two of these tanks. But when a war breaks out, they can fit two of 'em.



My data's half a decade old, though, so they may have downlined that rating since then for safety reasons.



Still, 440 tons max gross is pretty big, either way .



--Ty

 

[Vaughn MacKenzie]

Challenger #3985

Toolman, I love your shot of #3985! I love the 3985 I've had the opportunity to ride a train pulled by this monster on two occasions. The coolest thing was when they stopped in the middle of nowhere and let everyone off the train, then backed it up nearly a mile, at which point they pulled the throttle wide open and blasted past us. They're called photo runbys. I swear this thing generates at least a 5. 0 on the richter scale wherever it goes. To see this kind of horsepower up close and personal is incredible.



The most awesome display of power #3985 put on was back in '90 when it hauled a 147-car 8800-ton train by itself and easily maintained the 65mph track speed. Katdiesel you may recall where they ran, but I think one grade was 0. 9% which it climbed easily? Did they run North Platte to Cheyenne?



All the Big Boys ran bituminous coal. Only one was converted to oil, and it did not perform well (horrible fuel economy. . . imagine that). They switched it back to coal.



Back in the late '90s production on a movie began that was to include one of the Big Boys (#4018), but that never came to fruition. The plan was to restore it to operating condition, but they only got as far as moving the locomotive to a new location (to the Age of Steam Museum in the Dallas TX area). The film company was a low-budget affair I'd never heard of. http://www.bigboy4018.com/news/middle.html

http://www.trainweb.org/jlsrr/bigboy/4018/bigboy 4018.htm



Vaughn

 

[nickleinonen]

Re: Its not giant but...

Originally posted by Hummin Cummins

Pretty darn big to me. And it has twins

now that's along the lines of the engine sizes i am use to seeing... [work on emd locomotive and ge locomotive engines] who makes that engine? looks like a genset. what's it powering?



[oh, and all my engines are single turbo's, but the emd is gear driven until the turbo spools up :-laf the ge is a normal type turbo]

 

[Crash_AF]

That's a Cummins KTA V-16 and yes, it's a genset. Not quite sure on the displacement off hand...



The AF uses a KTA V-12 for prime power on large deployments... looks the same with two less cylinders on each side.



Later,

Joe H

 

[EMD Diesel Power]

Re: Re: Its not giant but...

[oh, and all my engines are single turbo's, but the emd is gear driven until the turbo spools up :-laf the ge is a normal type turbo] [/B][/QUOTE]





Have you seen any 6000HP units up your way from either builder? Both the EMD 265H and the GE 7HDL are twin-turboed.

Everything else is single-turbo.





Its also fun when the turbo clutch slips on the EMDs. Nice big boom to it. Not good on the equipment though. Kinda like going from Dynamic to Power too fast.



:-laf



Jeff

 

[Blakers]

As far as I know, the Silver Spade is still digging. It's currently working just southwest of New Athens, Ohio. Plans are for her to be saved as a museum when she's retired.



In 1998 and 1999, myself and several others tried saving the Big Muskie as a tourist attraction. We raised over $100,000, but were unfortunately unsuccessful. See my Big Muskie site at Big Muskie - Remembering the Walking Giant.



Blake

 

[nickleinonen]

Re: Re: Re: Its not giant but...

Originally posted by EMD Diesel Power

[oh, and all my engines are single turbo's, but the emd is gear driven until the turbo spools up :-laf the ge is a normal type turbo]

Have you seen any 6000HP units up your way from either builder? Both the EMD 265H and the GE 7HDL are twin-turboed.

Everything else is single-turbo.





Its also fun when the turbo clutch slips on the EMDs. Nice big boom to it. Not good on the equipment though. Kinda like going from Dynamic to Power too fast.



:-laf



Jeff

nope, nothing in the 6000hp range. we are supposidly getting some of them ge evolution 4000 hp 12 cylinders sometime in the future [like 5 years ]



never really heard the clutch like that, but i've heard a ge 16 cyl. 4400hp turbo bark going from 8th full self load to idle. that same unit had a turbo changed out for a broken turbo shaft at the compressor side... [i also had a ge running without the exhaust hooked up to the turbo, it sounded real nice straight piped without the turbo there... ]

and we had an sd70 in the shop earlier this week that had the turbo grenade. the compressor side was all gone, the ar10 compartment wall was smashed, both side engine room doors smashed, auxgen drive shaft smashed intercoolers & ducting toast... they boxed it up and are sending it to the backshop for a engine overhaul... dang. i wanted to work on that [i still haven't done any gm turbocharger or roots blower work]...

 

[Hummin Cummins]

That's a Cummins KTA V-16 and yes, it's a genset. Not quite sure on the displacement off hand...

No displacement on the engine plate. 1490 HP @ 1800. Its a KTA-50 with twin Holset HC5A turbos. Each with their own BHAF It is a 1991 with a whopping 76 hours on it. Its the emergency power for half of the treatment plant I work at. I get to do the service on it. Most it has run under load was 4 hours once. Any other time just when I run it weekly to keep the cobwebs away.



All this big stuff is impressive, but what blew me away was watching the drilling rig here at work boring for pilings. 36" auger at least 30' deep. Powered by the mighty B5. 9

 

[Sled Puller]

Blakers,

I swear you are involved in EVERYTHING.

 

[Blakers]

Well not EVERYTHING... . but ALMOST!

 

[KatDiesel]

No action shots, but I went down and took a look at the train before before going to the rodeo.



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[KatDiesel]

DD40 anyone?



Union Pacific has retained only one of its 47 Centennial diesel-electric locomotives, No. 6936. The Centennials were the largest diesel-electric locomotives ever built. Actually comprising two engines on one frame, they delivered 6,600 horsepower. Designed and built exclusively for Union Pacific Railroad, the units were named in honor of the railroad's centennial anniversary celebration in 1969. Accordingly, they were numbered in the 6900 series, from 6900 to 6946.





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