Give the truck back...I think?

[DPKetchum]

Every NEW model change that occurs use to send shops into as frizzy because of new issues with new products. Not to many years ago vehicles wern't returned or bought back and they got fixed. Some just took a while. I know thats not much help but look at Toyota. Camshft issues,tailgates bending and braking,brake issues all on the NEW big truck or the 03 to 07 Ford 6. 0s. Chrysler has had no where new these issues.

 

[SBreaux]

Well I went to the dealer today and had the G30 recall done. They also cleared the codes. They did NOT however flash the ECM with the AV code. I aksed the mechanic (he was polite), why he is not flashing the ECM with the latest.



The mechanic told me that the instructions (which he was holding) stated to check for the AU flash which I had. He stated that is all he is allowed to do per DC on the recall. If the current ECM flash matched the recall... stop... he did.



The truck runs fine, but that is what happened at the dealer today.



Steve

 

[sag2]

The G30 recall and the latest flash should take care of your problem. I have been saying here many times, get the latest flash done as soon as they are available. Cummins did not ask for the Fed's to change the emissions standards, and they work within the laws that are on the books. As with any new thing, bugs are sure to develop, and no one can EVER anticipate the conditions each one of us use our vehicles in. I have to say from the outside looking in, the Cummins/Dodge response has been outstanding from the early on problems to today. There are very few people having serious problems with the DPF or other emissions systems. Most problems are caused by not having the latest software. So here it goes again, get the latest flash (or recall) and do it before you have trouble.

I know some things can never happen fast enough, but just be glad the auto manufacturers are not government run!

 

[betterthanstock]

I do blame Cummins/Dodge for hurrying to meet the 2010 emissions, 3 years ahead of schedule, when meeting the 07 laws would have been tough enough. They saved money certifying it only once, instead of twice, and maybe they can keep some of their bigger engines dirtier for longer, since the EPA does fleet averaging, and they sell a lot of Dodges compared to other engines.

Also, meeting the 2010 without urea is a mistake in my opinion. Some say the cost of the wasted fuel without urea is about the same as the extra cost of urea. I doubt that. Maybe at $1. 50/gallon, but not at $3. 50.

Urea lets you take an older truck, like an 03, have it tuned with lots of timing, to give hot/efficient combustion, low soot, no EGR, no CO and HC oxidizing catalysts, but huge NOx emissions. Then, pass it thru a urea injector/reactor whatever it's called, and convert the NOx to nitrogen and oxygen. No trap filter, if it's done correctly. Gasoline engines could do the same without EGR and without regular catalysts, and could use lean burn combustion to give you mileage that rivals a diesel.

Instead, they now made the diesel give you the mileage of a V10 gasser, by making it run to simulate the gasser Otto cycle (lower combustion temperatures, and incomplete combustion, then trap and burn the pollutants in the exhaust)



By 2012, the standards will be so impossible, that they will need all the filters/catalysts and urea on top.