Goerend transmission

[NBeebe]

I have heard alot of good things about Dave's trannys, and I only live 200 miles North of his shop. My question is, does anyone have a rough idea how much it would be for a new Goerend transmission? On their website, it says $3250 for the transmission, but what about for the transmission INSTALLED? I have an 03 with the 47RE, and would like to drive the truck down there and have the transmission installed at his shop.

My truck has 69k miles on it, and is all stock. I know the 47RE will eventually give out, even at stock. Plus I would like to throw an edge juice on it, and nothing more than that, but don't want to do it with the 47RE because I will probably fry it if I do. It says the standard goerend transmission can handle 400 hp, which is 150 hp more than my stock SO, and is plenty for what I need/want.

 

[Partyat33]

I 'THINK' he charges $400. I did my own so I don't know for sure. Give him a call and be a little patient. He will answer all you questions.

 

[bmoeller]

He charged me $400 for the R&R of the trans.

Depending on what was put in the trans, that price might also include the T/C. Mine did anyhow.

It says the standard goerend transmission can handle 400 hp, which is 150 hp more than my stock SO, and is plenty for what I need/want.

You sure that is as far as you'll go with the power? I thought I'd stop at 300hp. Nosing 400, and still want more. :-laf

 

[RDyson]

I ran my TST/EZ on my stock 47re for about a year before having any problems. I was conservative though, not running my TST over 3/3, EZ/1. What finally got me was that I got to turning up my TST. I wouldn't hammer it untill the torque converter locked up, but it was just too much torque for the stock clutches. Mine started slipping in 4th. When it did, I just turned off my TST and it was fine. But after you've felt the power you can have you just can't run it stock.

Being that close to Dave, unless you just want to part with your money I'd wait untill you started having problems. Even running the juice you may can go for a long time before having trouble. It doesn't cost any more if you roast yours.

I wanted Dave to install mine, but living 16 hours away in the Texas panhandle it made more sense for him to ship it to me. The freight = the install cost, so I came out even on that. Actually it was cheaper because I did not have to pay sales tax because I was out of state.



Good luck,

Randy

 

[DerekW]

I have heard alot of good things about Dave's trannys, and I only live 200 miles North of his shop. My question is, does anyone have a rough idea how much it would be for a new Goerend transmission? On their website, it says $3250 for the transmission, but what about for the transmission INSTALLED? I have an 03 with the 47RE, and would like to drive the truck down there and have the transmission installed at his shop.

My truck has 69k miles on it, and is all stock. I know the 47RE will eventually give out, even at stock. Plus I would like to throw an edge juice on it, and nothing more than that, but don't want to do it with the 47RE because I will probably fry it if I do. It says the standard goerend transmission can handle 400 hp, which is 150 hp more than my stock SO, and is plenty for what I need/want.

haaa yea with just an edge juice I would seriously not waste you money on the trans until you put alot more Miles on it. I have my 48re sitting right here next to me in my kitchen and honestly the differences between 2 that make torque capacity different are the number of pinions in the planetary gear set. the rear clutch pack ( located in the front of trans on the input shaft) might also have the different backing plate that allows 2 more clutches. But unless you are having problems with slipping all you need is a good Valve body. if you ahve slipping and edge backing down on power then upgrade the torque converter and the Build up the OD housing. don't touch nothing else. oh wait I HOPE EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU AUTOMATIC GUYS OUT THERE ARE ADJUSTING YOUR FRONT BAND AT THE PROPER OR MORE FREQUENTLY THAN THE POSTED INTERVALS. trust me I have had 2 vehicles with the pretty much same transmission. I had a 99 durango with 46RE and now a O 4 five with the 48RE. I have also hung around the my buddies transmission shop quite a bit while on the clock at another shop ssshhhhh..... not one peep jp. The durango has been rebuilt and now has 47re internals. Oh oh oh and there is a big roller bearing in the back of the a518 and a618s (in otherwords 42re through 48re, A518s are light duty gassers, 618's are heavy duty gassers and diesels) But anyways that roller bearing is just a peice of junk that is notorious for wearing out and making noise whent he rest of the trans is in perfect condition. My buddy would often time pull the back of the trans and replace just that bearing and put it back together.



from you sig and what you described dont buy a billet input, intermediate, or output shaft, in you app thats gonna be the biggest waste of money unless you do hcnage your mind and go for broke adding more power. What ever you do a valve body or work since he is so close is in need. also make sure at the time he drops that pan that there is a mopar reusable gasket in place. and that it is in good condition. if not buy one reason being its less work for jiffy lube and less time they are getting debris in you trans at service. and i you can either repair the damage from people over tightening you pan bolts or you can install a good pan. when I say damage the stock pan will warp when pan bolts are all too commonly over tightened. machinist please make a 1/4inch thick ring to go between the pan and the bolts that hold on the pan and sell the kit with longer bolts this will fix so many peoples leaking issues on the 727 and the A518/A618s trust me theres alot of people in need I personally will by a few to install on the rango and to have sitting around in my inventory make sure the ring fits between the lips on the outer edge of the pan. the sole purpose is to distribute load when over tighening the pan (ehh hmm jiffy lube) to prevent leakage and promote sealing. This will also assist in fixing damaged pans already out there, though the still will need a hammer.



Well I rambled on to long and forgot what this thread was about but just dont go overboard cuz you haven't yet gone overboard with the power output of the cummins.





Now I wonder what those crappy california cummins engines got behind them in the way of a automatic... ... ... ...

 

[NBeebe]

yes I will wait until I start having problems. In the mean time I will just make DC take care of the transmission until the warranty is up at 118k miles, then I will decide what to do. I just wanted to get a rough feel for what the install costs. Looks like $400, bringing the total to roughly $3650. Granted that will probably be more in a few years when the warranty is done, but still not too shabby, I think that's alot less than DTT and about the same as Suncoast, from what I've seen. And ATS = EVIL (from what I read).

Thanks guys.

 

[ChrisMiller]

Give Dave a call and talk to him, he is a great guy. I just had mine installed by him this week. I don't want to talk about prices, that's Dave's job, but I believe the $3250 is for a rebuilt transmission, meaning that he will replace most of the internals with new parts. The new parts will be the same strength as the originals. This will not allow your transmission to hold any more power. You want a torque convertor, valve body and depending on where you want to end up power wise, flex plate and shafts. If you go with just a convertor, valve body and have GB install it you will be looking at much less than $3250. He can look at the rest of your transmission and replace any parts that need replacing. He will get the valve body dialed in how you want it. I would drive 20 hours to have him do the install. Sorry about the long post, I just haven't worked with too many people that are as good as Dave and his guys. PM me if you want to discuss anything further.



JMHO but why would you want to wait on installing the aftermarket stuff until your stock transmission breaks if you are going to do it eventually anyways? You risk damaging parts that you wouldn't have had to pay for and you have to wait that much longer to enjoy driving the cummins the way it was meant to drive.

 

[scootergmc]

Now I wonder what those crappy california cummins engines got behind them in the way of a automatic... ... ... ...

What crappy CA cummins? You mean the engines with the dreaded third injection event, just like yours? We have a 48RE.

 

[Partyat33]

You might get more for your core if its in good condition. Call and find out !

 

[RDyson]

There was no core charge. He may charge you if the case is cracked, but other than that the new rebuilt transmission with stock shafts is a flat rate.



Randy

 

[DerekW]

What crappy CA cummins? You mean the engines with the dreaded third injection event, just like yours? We have a 48RE.

the ones where they leave half the horsepower at cummins or DC which ever. all the other 49 states seem to have like double the output right off the dealer lot and TST has dyno proved it. well maybe i exagerated some its not half the power but a substanial number.

 

[DerekW]

yes I will wait until I start having problems. And ATS = EVIL (from what I read).

Thanks guys.

do wait on the complete transmission but do install a good valve body to delay the expense of a rebuild. ALSO I finally got my ATS stuff. I have not even opened the boxes but I am not happy. I talked to them on the phone they said they got my order on the 21st or 22nd then they shipped it out on the 28th. Iw as trying to get some answers from the lady as to why my order took so long to leave the facility and finally she got fed up and said "look i dont know but it should be there tommorow". At that point that wasn't my issue My issue was I was trying to get answers to figure out how the company works and trying to make a decision if I want to do business ever again. One of the boxes with their billet flexplate was torn and quite honestly I feel it should have been mark fragile. Also the torque converter box weighed about 90 or more pounds. personally my johndeere tractor weights I just bought didn't feel as heavy as the converter. John deere said they weighed 102 lbs. The otrque converter box was labeled with the weight 79lbs so I imagine they were lying to ups to try and be able to get them to be shipped by ups.



If ATS is willing to lie to UPS and want to give me a hard time one the phone, I honestly don't think this company is a company I personally want to deal with in the future. Theres too much dishonesty going around. You cant run a business like that. DTT, Goerbrothers, HTT, BD power, and a few others will get my future business. Also PATC has lost my business with their constant screw up's and total dishonesty on every shipment. I do like http://www.tcsproducts.com/ though as they made some of the parts I have been shipped and am using in my performance build up

 

[scootergmc]

the ones where they leave half the horsepower at cummins or DC which ever. all the other 49 states seem to have like double the output right off the dealer lot and TST has dyno proved it. well maybe i exagerated some its not half the power but a substanial number.

Oh please post more. Let's hear the facts. I'll let TST dyno my truck... Where are all the lawsuits by CA cummins owners for false advertising? Do you believe everything you read?



How's that 3rd injection event on you 04. 5 working out for you?



Do you know Cummins had a 235 HP engine in 03-04?