Good Snow,Ice,and mud tire???

[TPokrzywinski]

I have an 04. 5 4x4 with auto. 30K on the BFG's not real happy with performance of tires in snow, on ice, or in mud. I tow my fifth wheel very little, hunt and fish as often as possible! What replacement tire gives me the best combo. I live in North Dakota I see all kinds of conditions. A little help please.

 

[troll3193]

I am looking too. I want something like the BFG All Terrain T?A, but they don't make it in a load range E...



Not real interested in going down to a load range D tire.



I do like the BFG Commercial T/Z, but they only make them in 16" rims. .



I did talk to a guy at a gas station the other day that had a bombed 2500 4x4, and he was running Nitto grabber 295/70-17s. They looked very similar to the All Terrain T/A.



He did say they were only a load range D, but that the load capacity in pounds was the same as the BFG rugged trail T/As.



I run close to my GVWR when I tow, so want to make sure I have enough tire. .



Bryan

 

[JStieger]

I run TOYO Open Country A/T in 285/70/17. Load Range E. ~$212 per tire from Les Schwab.

 

[OHale]

I have the Cooper Discoverer M+S in load range E, stock tire size. I am very happy with them although they are a bit noisy on dry pavement. Mine are studded as we get a lot of ice around here. This is my second winter with them.

 

[BHolm]

Pretty hard to get all of those things done well with one tire. The BFg AT would be an excellent choice but not in the mud, it will clog up to quickly. The BFG MT will work except winter ice traction is not so hot. Maybe running the MT with the center lugs siped would get you all three. If you go to the 285/70-17 size in either BFG D range the loss of carrying capacity isn't that great. I had BFG ATs on my QC as a work truck, lots of pin wieght on a regular basis, never any problems and they went 50k miles. People get all out of whack on this D-E range stuff. The number to consider is the wieght rating, not the load range.

 

[chazj]

I just purchased the new Goodyear Wrangler Silent Armor Tire. Not too noisy as is rated for Heavy Snow Conditions. 50K wear warrenty also. Looks like it will be a winner.

 

[RPolidora]

People get all out of whack on this D-E range stuff. The number to consider is the wieght rating, not the load range.



I agree and I don't know alot about tires but it seems like most of the DW has occured on trucks with D tires unless I missed something. I thought the sidewall played a big factor as much actually as the weight rating? I really need to figure it out because my factory E tires are about gone.



thanks

 

[OHale]

I got suckered years ago into buying load range D tires for my '95 dually. The dealer showed me the load rating for each tire and said, 'see? They are virtually the same... . ' Under full load the tires would bulge: load range E tires have more plies in the sidewall. The Ds didn't last long under the weight of the dually and once one of the tires broke the bead and lost all air pressure. For a grocery getter I suppose Ds are OK. I've bought E's ever since. I had a different tire dealer try that two years ago because he had Ds in my size in stock but not Es. As he started down the 'load rating doesn't matter' road [pun] I held up my hand and said, "thanks, but I've been there and I have to have 10-ply. "



There is little price difference D and E and the last thing I want to worry about when the truck is loaded to GVW on hot asphalt at highway speeds is my tires.



My two cents worth, periodically adjusted for inflation and dollar valuation.

 

[coobie]

I have an 04. 5 4x4 with auto. 30K on the BFG's not real happy with performance of tires in snow, on ice, or in mud. I tow my fifth wheel very little, hunt and fish as often as possible! What replacement tire gives me the best combo. I live in North Dakota I see all kinds of conditions. A little help please.

I live in Michigan and the stock michelins sucked big time in the snow. I have around 33,000 miles on my truck and the michelins had alot of thread on them,but I just could not get around in the snow and mud. I ended up buying the bridgestone dueler A/T revos 265-17R70 E-rated to replace the stock tires. The bridgestones are like night and day difference to get around in the snow and mud verses the stock Michilens. Check this web-site out also www.tirerack.com alot of good info located here. coobie

 

[JasonBrown]

Load range E = 10 ply, Load range D = 8 ply. Regardless of weight, this is the difference. Toyo open country AT is the tire you want for all around mud, snow, and highway traction. You can get them in the stock size or move up to the 285. The 285 is hard to find right now due to demand. They are truly fantastic tires.

 

[Nightram]

I have LT265/70R17E Cooper Discoverer STT's. They are great. You also may want to check into the Cooper Discoverer ST's, not as aggressive or loud as the STT's, but a great solid tire, which I had on my last truck!

 

[MoparBob]

Take a look at Interco's TRXUS MT/STS tires. They are priced right, good weight ratings, great in the snow and are a quiet ride on the street. Here's a link to check them out: http://www.intercotire.com/site35.php

Hope this helps!

 

[roadking]

the stock bfg's[rugged trail ] suck i swear by the all terr ko's

 

[JOblenes]

I have for many years been on the quest for great on snow/ice/mud. It has been my experience that you can only get two of the three to be really good at the same time or you can get all three to be not too bad. An example of all three being not too bad is the BFG AT as mentioned above, the Toyo AT's, etc. If you go with anything approaching a mud tire they will usually do well in both mud and deep snow but invariably are like hockey pucks on the ice. The closest option to achieving all three would be to go with something like the Cooper or Procomp tires and have them studded. Here in Alberta, Canada it is legal to run studs year round (not that I would want to), but for most people this solution would not be practical and in the long run the studs will probably wear flat thus negating their benefit.



Right now I am running BFG MT's. I had a set of Coopers on order for the past four months, but they are backordered across Canada and I just recently cancelled the order. Instead I am going to look into the PJ DirtGrips to see if the extra little bit of siping will help, also it is a load range E tire.

 

[blacksheep4x4]

I would go with the new Cooper STT. It is a awsome tire. You'll be goin places in two wheel drive that most people are putting chains on to go through. Mud traction is just as good. They seem to do all right on ice too. They do make some sizes in load range E.

 

[testraub]

Toyo Open Country M/T They scare the snow from the road And quiet too

Call KORE or DRC for them.

 

[joslukas]

I've had great luck with ProComp AT's (33x12. 50 and 35x12. 50). They will only go 30k miles but awesome ride and all surface traction at a price much lower than fraction of the Toyos and BFGs. Can't get 10 ply so not really an option for heavy haulers.

 

[BColburn]

I'm gettin the Nitto Terra Grapplers, 295/70/17, put on today. Lotsa ice and snow to check em out, gonna be a while for the mud though. I plan on getting some Cooper STT's for that anyway.

 

[steved]

Cooper/MasterCraft C/Ts are an aggressive all terrain that I have seen really good comments on... these are most likely what I will get in the near future... in a 35 inch flavor.



The Cooper/MasterCraft SRS is an awesome snow tire.



steved

 

[mattk50]

i have also heard good things about the bridgestone revos. i am thinking about getting a set next month. they are pretty proud of them though---i was quoted $1000. 00 installed for a set!