2nd Gen Non-Engine/Transmission goodrich TKO E rated vs. Toyo M55's

[Jeepmullet]

I think I read through tire threads for an hour this morning. I've not seen a good comparision between these two tires. I tow lightly but drive tons of miles. My truck is a 6 speed 3. 54 gears and I have 265/75's right now. I'm going to the 285/75 16 style on factory wheels.



Dig deep and find the patience to comment on one more tire thread. Thanks.

 

[Regcabguy]

I think I read through tire threads for an hour this morning. I've not seen a good comparision between these two tires. I tow lightly but drive tons of miles. My truck is a 6 speed 3. 54 gears and I have 265/75's right now. I'm going to the 285/75 16 style on factory wheels.



Dig deep and find the patience to comment on one more tire thread. Thanks.

I've been running D-rated 285-75-16 TKO's for 11,000 miles now. Fairly quiet,tough tire but inadequate load range for my needs. I get a fair amount of tail wag due to sidewall flex. Due to continuous balance problems I'd go with the Toyo's next time even with an "E" rating now available in the TKO's. With camper off the truck the TKO's seem more than adequate. Add 1800lbs and raise center of gravity and they suck. KORE lift contributes to my situation also.

 

[PKleine]

I've got about 12k on some M-55's. Good tire, rolls smooth, handles good and has great traction. They are wearing OK, I think I have used 2/32 of tread at the last rotation. The only possible negative is they sing...



PK

 

[DKasper]

Absolutely no complaints about my M55's on my '93 W350 -- great tire. As noted, they are a bit musical. If I were doing lots of highway miles and not much in the way of mud, I'd go for something with a less aggressive tread. These tires have been great off-road.

 

[Fishin Guide]

30K on my M-55s. Most people assk me how I like the new tires.



These things wear like iron.



Dave

 

[Jeepmullet]

Thanks everyone for the responses. Unfortunately my choice is being made for me. Out of necessity I have to get the BFGs because the nearest set of M55s is a week away. The local distributor does not have any to sell to the dealers. They sure want to sell me a set of 8 ply open country tires though.

 

[kscheffler]

How bad is the "singing" off the M-55; I am considering a pair but if the noise is annoying maybe not. . thanks

 

[VHolloway]

we have BFG MT 285/75/16 and love them

nice bite

 

[Fishin Guide]

How bad is the "singing" off the M-55; I am considering a pair but if the noise is annoying maybe not. . thanks

Problem is, it's so subjective.



They are not bad. Hinestly. They are not. If you want a rig to be as quiet as possible, do not buy these tires. You will hear them on occasion. I do hear them with the windows down from around 45-55 mph.



But honestly, I don't hear them often over the open air filter element and the exhaust. Besides, the radio is always on a low volume and that also takes away from the noise.



If your truck is stock. You will hear them.



Dave

 

[DNewell]

I hope we're talking about the Toyo Mud tires, their topof the line ones with the ultra aggressive tread. I'm not familiar with the notation M55. I have these in a 285/75/16 and they rock! I have the E rated tire, which has a 10ply sidewall. I guess they are rated at 3650# per tire, or close thereto. I've buzzed mine to about 80 and they are quite nice. I didn't sipe them, and they are great. I concur with Fishin Guide in that I have an open intake, BHAF, and with a straight exhaust, you won't notice. I'm sorry you had to go with the TKO's in that I personally think that they suck. i think that they are overhyped because of the BFG rating. the Toyo's are now getting significant use for offroad events and have proven to be a very reliable tire.

 

[kscheffler]

The M-55 is NOT the M/T agressive TOYO tire. The M-55 is a commercial tire it is no where near as agressive as your M/T tire. I would imagine your tire is significantly louder than the M-55.

 

[MRaynor]

I had E load rated BFG KOs om my GMC 3500 and loved them. I will agree with previous posts that they are proud of them as far as cost. Mine were on the truck when traded in and had 40k miles on them and not even starting to wear. The only complaints I had were price and they had a tendency to hold gravel and turn it loose at about 60-65, (hell on paint). Just my experience.



Mike

 

[Jeepmullet]

Okay, I got the BFGs E rated, $895 OTD with lifetime free rotation and balance. Raw dealer cost is $155(raw cost) + 10%. I got mine for $205 + tax.

 

[Jeepmullet]

I think they look really good. The 33'' tire makes a huge difference

 

[DNewell]

The M-55 is NOT the M/T agressive TOYO tire. The M-55 is a commercial tire it is no where near as agressive as your M/T tire. I would imagine your tire is significantly louder than the M-55.

Actually, they aren't that bad on noise. I'm not too sure if you're familiar with the Les Schwab brand of tires, or if you even live in the NW(I didn't check, sorry), but I had a set of tires called the Mud Terrain SXT's, and these were extremely noisy. With the M/T Toyo's, I really don't hear anything.

 

[JGK]

30K on my M-55s. Most people assk me how I like the new tires.



These things wear like iron.



Dave

Dave,



I don't know how you're doing it, but I have about 23K on mine and they are nearly gone. I don't race or run heavy. Just my daily drive around town. I like the tire, but they just haven't held up.



-Jay

 

[Fishin Guide]

Dave,



I don't know how you're doing it, but I have about 23K on mine and they are nearly gone. I don't race or run heavy. Just my daily drive around town. I like the tire, but they just haven't held up.



-Jay

A buddy of mine had the same issue. Not to say that the conditions of his rig is the same as yours. But, in his case, it was a combination of two conditions.



Excessive toe. It was way off. Tires probably had more miles going sideways than forward.



Low tire pressure. In an effort to get a good ride and promote even wear, the pressure was lowered. It has long been my oinion that any tire on a truck that runs less than about 45-50 psi on the front will wear fast due to heat. This was the other nail in his coffin. We replaced his tires at the same time I did and fixed his alignment. He is getting similar results to myself now.



The other big factor is that in the NW, our temps tend to be a bit cooler. This also translates into a cooler operating tire. May have some bearing as well. I can tell you that on my old Bronco, I got about 30% less milage out of the same tipe, size and brand of tire in Arizona than in Washington.



Dave

 

[GCULP]

just my 2 cents, I hate my M-55's, I have had them back to Schwab multiple times for balancing, they even replaced them once, can't seem to get them to run smooth. Can't wait for them to wear out, but that's the other problem, they're not wearing. As for noise, it's acceptable, but I prefer a little quieter. And for all that I don't like about them, they really do handle my 30' travel trailer nicely. They were designed for the forest service to run on the gravel mountain roads, so they're a little harder compound and hence will wear better and take a little more abuse when off road.

 

[BarryG]

I just put some m55's in 285 e on the other day. So far so good but they only have about 200 miles on them so far. Wanted the open country mt's but couldnt wait until about the end of June to get them. They do sing a bit though. Any louder and it might be annoying would prefer them to be quieter.

 

[CTD12V]

I'll throw in my two cents here, even though I haven't actually owned either tire. Basically, dittos on what DNewell said. I have a cousin who had the Les Schwab Mud Terrains on his 2wd F-250, and they noticeably howled on pavement. I was riding to work several times a week a couple years ago with a logger who had the M-55s on his 01 Cummins, and I never noticed tire noise when riding with him, either with windows up or down. His truck was stock, so there was no extra sound besides the normal 24V engine/exhaust sound to mask the tire noise.



Edit: Both these people had 235/85 tires; size may affect the noise level.