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If you knew what MTR stood for you would know it is not a mud tire. It may have a mud rating as most offroad tires do... but it is NOT a mud tire. Of all the mud tire comparison testing I;ve seen the MTR was not included. Included were the swampers of various flavors, procomp MT's, BFG MT's etc. Tires that are more specifically designed for MUD. And this has been at least half a dozen MAJOR tests I've read over the last few years since before and after the MTR's release.



MTR stands for Max Traction Reinforced. Max traction because it has good tread patterns BUT also it is a softer compound than a BFG or other tires thus making it stickier on hard surfaces... . also why I feel BFG's will outlast them on the street and I've seen it happen almost 100% of the time with the exception of some folks here. There is no reference to mud there... it is built as a radial for offroad mostly rock crawling (and obviously street use) hence the "reinforced"... they have REAL good sidewalls for a radial tire. Why do you think the 40" MTR's are referred to as ROCK SPIDERS!
 
to get a little off topic, what kind of mud is it that you guys are able to drive through? I see video's of guys driving through mud holes with water up to the windows and I just don't get how they don't get stuck. Must be nice soil. The red clay soil at my dad's house will suck your boots and socks off if you try to walk through it. Found that out when I was a kid. And where do you guys live where you can "get to the bottom of the mud"? How do you do that? The stuff at my dad's place is bottomless goo.
 
XJSuperman said:
If you knew what MTR stood for you would know it is not a mud tire.



I know what they say it stands for. I know it's not technically considered a mug tire. But there are a lot of "mud tires" that truly suck in the mud. The BFG M/T sucks in the mud, and those are what I run on my Jeep. I usually drive on rocks. So far there's no tire called "rock terrain", and the standard has always been swampers, usually TSL/SX or bogger, and for those of us that need some street manners, BFG M/T's and other MT tires, INCLUDING the GY MT/R. Look at the void ratio. Look at the tread pattern. Is it the best ideal mud tire? NO. Is it a great all around tire that will do better in mud than any "all terrain" classified tire? There are basically only 2 offroad classifications... M/T with large void patters and A/T with smaller voids and more street worthy patterns. Sure, there's specific duty tires from many companies but all I'm saying is the MT/R most closely resembles a MUD TERRAIN tire than any other publicly recognized mass produced category of tire. If I wanted a tire for mud bogging on a regular basis would I buy the GY MT/R? No way. But for the ocassional mud, great offroad traction, decent highway manners, and all around great performance, the MT/R is in the top few of the choices out there. That's why I am putting MT/R's on my truck when it gets here.



... A Frisbee is still frisbee even if you call it a sooper-duper-maximum-traction-flying-disc. ;)
 
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CFast said:
to get a little off topic, what kind of mud is it that you guys are able to drive through? I see video's of guys driving through mud holes with water up to the windows and I just don't get how they don't get stuck. Must be nice soil. The red clay soil at my dad's house will suck your boots and socks off if you try to walk through it. Found that out when I was a kid. And where do you guys live where you can "get to the bottom of the mud"? How do you do that? The stuff at my dad's place is bottomless goo.



Cut boggers or paddle tires and lots of HP. Basically, skimming over the top of the mud without digging in. That's the only way to get over that gooey bottomless stuff without needing a tractor or helicopter to extricate you.
 
Rock Tires

I work in the middle east, and iwas lossing one or two tires week on the rocky roads, then we switched to MTR and replacement was reduce one tire a month, several repairs a month, tubes too. MTR are noise on the highway but I am in the desert 80-90% of the my driving. Handling, they take some getting use to on the highway, they are soft in the turns at speed.



JB
 
Maximum Traction/ Reinforced- and I didn't have to look that up.



And if thats not a mud tire design you need to sell your truck and buy a volkswagen rabbit. You can call it a diesel too. There aren't many mud tires on the market that don't use the same tread pattern the GY MT/r and BGF M/T have on them. Yippy so the GY has some kevlar in it. That doesn't change the tread they wrapped it in.



I didn't want to get off track on things too far but it killed me that they were being compared to A/Ts.



You also need to take into consideration that even tire manufacturers have bad (not defective) runs that maybe will wear prematurely or puncture easily.



Buy the tires, If you don't like them, some jeeper will :)



Make sure you get the D load rating or higher. A lot of rednecks think a tire is a tire around here. A CTD will kill a tire that isn't load rated for your truck.



Make sure your suspension is in good enough shape to handle them. Mine was aligned twice, once before my tires were installed and once after, and the passenger front is still wearing badly.
 
I have the 305/70-17 mtr's on my 03. Surprisingly they handle great dry or wet. Road noise is not loud either. I have put 5000 miles on them so far and I can tell they are wearing a little bit. When i called tire rack they said most people were only getting around 30,000 miles out of them. They are not a load range E tire put they look absolutly awesome. There are pics in my readers rigs gallery.

Dave
 
I have over 43K on my MTR's and yes I rotate evey 5k. I tip-toe in deep snow and have had them down to 9 psi. They are the smoothest at over 100 mph and kick-but in off road conditions. Yes you'll pay for them but, look at them up close and then look at the other brands... . it's an easy choice. But if you can't afford them... . oh well theres always BFG.



William
 
I just got a price for the 37" MT/r's and they are $280. Goodyear just released them from Military Block. Price is up too. Retail is $318. 97. We can get as many as we want now. Mine are coming next week... . ! I will let ya know (with pictures) how they work in the soft blow sand. I will also let you know what kind of traction I get when they are in the air. Oo. Oo. Oo.



Greg
 
Well I went 4 wheelin this weekend with my bfg at's on my dodge and my buddy had his jeep with the MT/R's. Mostly the sandy, dirty, rocky trails in the High Sierra's around shaver and edison lake. I have Chunks missing from my BFG's. His MT/R's have small scatches on the lugs of the tire tread. Now maybe this is because my truck weighs twice what his jeep weighs, but still. My tires look pretty bad now. Don't think I'll wheel to much more with them. I think next time it's MT/R's
 
While we are comparing the BFG AT's to the GDY MTR's and since some have run both how about a comment on road noise between the two?

I know GDY made a change in the tread, they are not the same tire as MTR's of years ago.
 
MTRs do very well in mud here at Marshall creek North of Fort Worth.



... on a toyota pickup with body lift running 35s.



I got my CTD stuck out there, and will never go again with that 1100 lb engine, unless I have 40" super swampers on it.
 
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