Thanks for all the insights and helpful hints fellas. I had to have my appendix taken out last night so I am home recovering for a few days, should give me plenty of time to read about the new rig I've got sitting in the driveway. Catcracker, hang in there on finding a manual truck. I paid $29, 000 for my 99 auto with 28, 000 miles. I drove it for two years and put sixty thousand miles on it. I still owed $18,000 but they gave me $21, 000 on my trade and I paid $29,000 for the new truck, so I think I came out pretty good. Keep looking. The new truck has 26,000 miles on it, so it still has some breaking in to do.