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Holy cow, I just finished installing a Gov. spring kit (got it right on the first time) and a top secret cam plate.

All I can say is..... WOW!

I had a number 11 plate in before and the gov was stock. It made 350 HP all day. It feels like night and day in difference.

I am going to dyno Sat and will post results.



This thing is kinda scary now!!



I still have a top secret turbo sittin on the bench to install as well.

I'll do that tomorrow.

Even without the turbo this truck is sooooo strong now.

Smoke... ... . we wont talk about smoke. :D



I'm floored!!!!!



Don~
 
Cool

Don,



Let me know what you come up with on the dyno I recently added the 4K gov kit and a #10 slid all the way forward was wondering about HP never been on a dyno, YET:D
 
You got it, as soon as I know I will be braggin a bit.



I forgot to thank a couple of fellas earlier.

Piers and Joseph... thanks!



The gov springs were a snap and the cam plate... . well we all know how easy it is.



I decided to go through the top of the pump to do the gov springs because the cam plate was out making it the logical choice.



Don~
 
No,



I ran out of time.



The 60 pounders will go in soon.



I can tell ya, it is hard to hold back from rappin it up to 4000.



So far I have not exceeded 3200. Well, maybe once:D

But I was not used to the thing yet.

I am watchin it closer now.



I'll let ya know.



There is a guy on here name Dee Rawson. He has done the 60 pounders.



Don~
 
The valve springs are not bad to do. The hardest part is getting enough compression of the spring. I used the KD spring tool, maybe the Cummins does a better job. I got by by "screwing " the spring into the tool as far as possible before actually tightening down on the tool. The stock springs are not a problem coming off because they are shorter and do not require as much compression.



I would be glad to answer any questions you may have. I am by no means an expert.



Big John
 
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valve springs

Big John,



If you had the time to exsplain the procedure that would be great I am looking at doing the job tomarrow a friend purchased the snap-on tool hopefully it work well. I have seen a guy do valve spring seal on a gasser and they flood the cylinder with air to hold up the valve how would you do this with the diesel ? Do I need to do a valve lash after putting in the new springs ? while I am in there should I replace the valve stem seals ? I did a search but couldn't find any directions on the boards and of course the service manual has you remove the whole head first.



Any help, hints, or sugestions would be greatly appreciated



Thanks,



Scott
 
BBD, I will do my best to give you the procedure that worked well for me. First, I did set the lash on each valve as I finished the cylinder. This adds some time and engine barring to the procedure, but mine needed doing anyway. I also did NOT replace the stem seals. Mine were 105K old but Cummins said unless I had a problem, they would be fine. I did use new gaskets and o-rings on the valve covers 'cause mine were stiff and starting to seep a little oil. Cummins did recommend doing one cylinder at a time so as not to loosen too many head bolts at one1 time.



1. To find TDC on #1 cylinder, remove valve cover and bar engine clockwise( looking at front of engine) until intake valve just goes closed. Then turn engine over ½ turn(180 degrees). This should put cylinder all the way up on #1. You should be able to shake rocker arms on both intake and exhaust valves.

2. Remove both bolts and rocker arm assembly, being carefull to not bring push rods with it. Place a rag or towel over as much of the engine area as possible to keep from dropping anything in engine.

3. Place a hammer, handle down, on the exhaust valve and push down to insure valve hits the top of the piston. If it does, put valve spring tool on and compress valve.

4. Once compressed, bump down on tool and valve to loosen collets. Retrieve collets with magnetic retriever being carefull not to drop. Slide spring off stem.

5. Check valve stem seal to insure it is still in place. Compress new spring and slide over stem. If valve drops too far, the engine can be barred one way or the other with valve on piston to ensure you are all the way up with the piston. It may be necessary to slightly compress the new valve by pushing on top of tool because the new springs are longer that the old ones. I also "screwed" the new valves into the compression tool as far as I could before I started cranking down on the tool. Yours may work differently, but my KD tool needed this help.

6. Drop collets back into the collar. Make sure they are both in place before releasing spring tension. Once released, remove tool and tap on top of valve spring with a mallet to make sure they stay in place.

7. Install rocker assembly, making sure push rods are in place. Torque small bolt to 18 ft/ pounds and large bolt to 90 ft/pounds plus ¼ turn. You may want to check this in the book. Set valve lash now, if you plan to.

8. Put cover back on and torque to 18 ft/pounds.

Note: If you do not plan to set valve lash, you can replace exhaust valve spring on #6 cylinder before barring engine again because #6 is at top when #1 is. Once finished with #6, bar engine 1/3 revolution and do #2 and #5. Then bar 1/3 revolution and do #3 and #4.

9. If you are going to set valve lash, bar engine one revolution and now # 6 should be all the way up with both rocker arms loose. Or you can follow the firing order using the same concept as before. Hope this makes sense.



Note: Make sure to remove the rubber stopper above both #6 and #5 to make it possible to remove the large bolt that holds down the rocker arm assembly.



This is as clear as mud, but let me know if you have any questions. There is also an old post by DieselB59 back in July where he goes through the same thing.



I have never used the air method.



Big John
 
Don,



Try your valve spring tool out on the 60 lbs springs before you tear into things. That way you will know if your tool will work before your past that point of no return. I had two, both junk. I would get to squeezing the springs and they would pop out sideways. I got by but afterwards tossed em' in the can. Also, there is not much room for an oversized tool above the back two cylinders.



If I remember, I had to remove the plastic cowling to access the back cylinders. There are holes that the bolts will slide through.



A clean engine, lots of lighting and some pads to lay on are helpful. Especially those for those rear cylinders.



Schedule the valve spring change along with an oil change. When you finish up, run the engine some then dump the oil just in case any dirt found it's way in.
 
Exhaust brake pressure.

You probably already know this but if your running an exhaust brake, you can crank up the hold back pressure with the 60lb'rs. At least on the BD.
 
QTRHRS, good advise all, especially the part about trying the spring tool out first. I was so desperate one time that I had two railroad bars balanced on top of the spring tool with a 50 pound tractor weight just trying to get the #6 spring in. Made it work, but also got a new tool before doing it again!



Big John
 
I hear you John. Mind you, my needs and budget are usually met with Craftsman. When I need to though, I spring for the best. I don't remember what happened but at the last minute, I picked up this POS compressor. Sat night went into sun morning. Not much open so I got a second POS. There for a while, I could have spit nails but kept at it. When all was said and done, both POS compressors went into the round file.
 
Thanks to all

Hey guy's, thanks to all of you and piers.



We, myself and DMerrill got the springs in with no clitches in about two and one half hours Saturday morning. We used a friends (Pyhcho's) valve spring compression tool it was a snap-on and worked fairly good. Had to screw the spring a little way into the tool as mentioned above. also had to peel back the insulation above #'s 5 and 6 and pulled the rubber plugs to remove the longer bolts other then that everything went like clock work



Thanks again to everybody for the advise.



Scott,
 
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