Grease points on 2016 3500 4x4

[Cummins2014]

Greg......and 12V.....:-laf there really is no conspiracy here to misinform you..... it won't spill unless you are a total klutz.....and even us "heathens of the fender" practice safe and hygienic ways and make sure the old gasket didn't stick to the filter base and......wipe the base clean.

Sam

Why the questions. This wiping the filter base is also amazing, don't know why its asked, you reach up, and wipe it :-laf My only concern when I first did it thru the fender was replacing it with one hand, not a problem.

 

[gsbrockman]

Pretty sure I told you before, but maybe not, or you didn't believe me. Its not an issue . How do you do it from above, and then think it about it for a moment, its the same from below, you reach down, and I reach up

I have no idea why you ,and Cummins even question which way we do it, you guys made it clear what way you do it, and will continue. My point has always been that I have done it thru the top removing the air intake, it sucks, you can minimize it all you want ,don't care. I prefer the fender well .

Apparently you have not removed the filter from the bottom, and don't intend to , why not just move on. You are not going to convince someone that has tried it both ways, and prefers thru the fender well .

If you did tell me before, I guess I forgot....and I apologize.

Since I have not done it from the wheel well was the method of the madness in asking about any difficulty in regards to cleaning the filter base. I guess the next time my filter is off, I'll stick my hand through the wheel well and check for myself.

I'm not sure where I ever "questioned" anyone as to their preference as to remove the intake or via the wheel well. If I did.....I'm sure it was along the line of playful banter, and I'll bet I even added a few of these :-laf along the way. I can certainly say that I've not "force fed" my preference of intake removal down anyone's throat.....

I did make this statement once :

I'd have to believe threading the new filter on, giving the limited clearances on MY truck, would only add to the degree of difficulty involved.

At the end of the day.....everyone needs to do what's best for him / her.

Greg......and 12V.....#ad
there really is no conspiracy here to misinform you.....#ad
it won't spill unless you are a total klutz.....and even us "heathens of the fender" practice safe and hygienic ways and make sure the old gasket didn't stick to the filter base and......wipe the base clean.#ad


Sam

That's good to know, Sam. Can't you just revert back to picking on a Hills Green owner in AL ??? :-laf

 

[Ram4Sam]

If you did tell me before, I guess I forgot....and I apologize.

Since I have not done it from the wheel well was the method of the madness in asking about any difficulty in regards to cleaning the filter base. I guess the next time my filter is off, I'll stick my hand through the wheel well and check for myself.

I'm not sure where I ever "questioned" anyone as to their preference as to remove the intake or via the wheel well. If I did.....I'm sure it was along the line of playful banter, and I'll bet I even added a few of these :-laf along the way. I can certainly say that I've not "force fed" my preference of intake removal down anyone's throat.....

I did make this statement once :

At the end of the day.....everyone needs to do what's best for him / her.

That's good to know, Sam. Can't you just revert back to picking on a Hills Green owner in AL ??? :-laf

I guess.....if I have to...... But ever since guzzler had his temper tantrum at my humor, it's been kind of quiet.......:-laf

Sam

 

[Cummins2014]

If you did tell me before, I guess I forgot....and I apologize.

Since I have not done it from the wheel well was the method of the madness in asking about any difficulty in regards to cleaning the filter base. I guess the next time my filter is off, I'll stick my hand through the wheel well and check for myself.

I'm not sure where I ever "questioned" anyone as to their preference as to remove the intake or via the wheel well. If I did.....I'm sure it was along the line of playful banter, and I'll bet I even added a few of these :-laf along the way. I can certainly say that I've not "force fed" my preference of intake removal down anyone's throat.....

I did make this statement once :

At the end of the day.....everyone needs to do what's best for him / her.

That's good to know, Sam. Can't you just revert back to picking on a Hills Green owner in AL ??? :-laf

And apparently I have been reading you wrong, then I apologize. I will pay more attention to the smileys

 

[gsbrockman]

I guess.....if I have to...... But ever since guzzler had his temper tantrum at my humor, it's been kind of quiet.......:-laf

Sam

39 and a half-foot pole comes to mind :-laf

 

[Cummins2014]

39 and a half-foot pole comes to mind :-laf

I think I get that. :-laf I should practice more of that

 

[gsbrockman]

I think I get that. :-laf I should practice more of that

The guy that wrote the Grinch song has some fairly good points :-laf

 

[buntster]

As someone who's completely on the fence about "over or under" (be it toilet paper OR oil filters), I do enjoy reading all the whys and why nots.

When gsbrockman mentioned, "for my truck..." this hit me: The difference between the cooler line routing for the 68RFE vs. the Aisan equipped trucks is probably the difference between the "under" method being a bit frustrating vs. darn near impossible...

With my 68RFE, when I went in from underneath, I realized I'd been worked up over nothing--of course I have long arms and all the "right" tools, which helps tremendously. If there were as much as one extra hard-line in that window, it would be a different story...for my truck (to coin a phrase).

I did my first change "under" and will do the next one "over" -- mainly because it'll be time to look at the turbo and change the air filter, and as long as I'm up there I might as well go in from the top.

 

[gsbrockman]

As someone who's completely on the fence about "over or under" (be it toilet paper OR oil filters), I do enjoy reading all the whys and why nots.

When gsbrockman mentioned, "for my truck..." this hit me: The difference between the cooler line routing for the 68RFE vs. the Aisan equipped trucks is probably the difference between the "under" method being a bit frustrating vs. darn near impossible...

To illustrate an additional point in regards to '13 & up 3500 G56 owners as well as '14 & up 2500 G56 owners......
It took several minutes of digging on another forum I belong to, but I remembered a thread that had a pic of their wheel well w/oil filter.
As the old saying goes.....one picture is worth a thousand words :-laf
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[JackFate]

So just the one grease point then eh:-laf:-laf:-laf:-laf

i think we all do benefit here from the experience HERE from all , ALL GOOD ,THANKS ALL

 

[Cummins12V98]

"I have no idea why you ,and Cummins even question which way we do it"

My "Questions" have been of a curious nature not a critical one. But I do question why he did not show lowering the filter so he could screw on the top. Maybe he spilled oil? I am guessing so.

I also change my air filter at the time of oil change along with the fuel filters at 15K.

 

[Newsa]

I misspoke. Aisin is passenger side 68 has the lines on the drivers side.

I will post a pic of mine later. I am to assume the 68 gives more room thru the fender than the Aisin.

This was where I had been confused. I thought I heard something about transmission cooler lines limiting access to the oil filter. I had also misspoke in another thread about transmission cooler lines preventing access from below. But it was reportedly from the side? It is the frame preventing access from below. Thanks for clearing that up.

 

[Too Tall]

Hey Too Tall.............one question. I did not see in the video where the filter base was wiped / cleaned. Is that a step you did, but did not record, or do you not clean the filter base??? I could see it being difficult cleaning the filter base utilizing the wheel well method.

If you look at the first oil change, I have a picture of the clean surface ready for the filter. Yes, I always clean the filter base.

Look at 4:36 in this video

https://youtu.be/Wz7rMIriC1Q

and you'll see it wiped clean and also shows a better shot of the filter base, etc...I did two video's, one with the plastic zip lock and one with geno's. The first was much more detailed.

 

[Too Tall]

"I have no idea why you ,and Cummins even question which way we do it"

My "Questions" have been of a curious nature not a critical one. But I do question why he did not show lowering the filter so he could screw on the top. Maybe he spilled oil? I am guessing so.

I also change my air filter at the time of oil change along with the fuel filters at 15K.

If you are talking about my video, I do show the geno's cap off being installed while the filter is sitting on the rags. There's no deception here, I don't care how you change your oil. I don't get a penny from Geno's or anyone so I have no motive. I'm just an old man persuading a hobby. Not trying to convince anyone, just trying to help those who are open mined and want to learn a little from someone else's experiences.


https://youtu.be/bWKOHGXhuiE

 

[Cummins12V98]

Too Tall

"But I do question why he did not show lowering the filter"

No need to get defensive! My question is valid since you show every detail but did NOT show lowering the filter once the filter came loose. My question is why not and did you spill oil doing so?

I DO appreciate the time you spent doing this!

 

[gsbrockman]

Too Tall

"But I do question why he did not show lowering the filter"

No need to get defensive! My question is valid since you show every detail but did NOT show lowering the filter once the filter came loose. My question is why not and did you spill oil doing so?

Maybe he did in fact drop it........and then went on another little "tirade" like he did at the 9:17 through 9:28 mark......and it wasn't PG Rated for TDR :-laf

 

[Cummins2014]

"I have no idea why you ,and Cummins even question which way we do it"

My "Questions" have been of a curious nature not a critical one. But I do question why he did not show lowering the filter so he could screw on the top. Maybe he spilled oil? I am guessing so.

I also change my air filter at the time of oil change along with the fuel filters at 15K.

Curious nature to what end

 

[Cummins2014]

Maybe he did in fact drop it........and then went on another little "tyrade" like he did at the 9:17 through 9:28 mark......and it wasn't PG Rated for TDR :-laf

I don't know how you would drop it, but I guess its possible, but actually spilling doubtful. This last time my filter was less then half full, when I removed it. Have heard if given time it will siphon out some of the oil when draining the pan. Must of been the case , not a lot of oil left in there.

I will have to go back ,and watch the tirade, missed it :-laf

 

[Ram4Sam]

:-laf You know.....Greg and 12V might be right, this is all a scam.........I watched the video and......did he REALLY even drain the oil, I didn't see him remover the drain plug....

Sam

 

[Cummins2014]

Maybe he did in fact drop it........and then went on another little "tyrade" like he did at the 9:17 through 9:28 mark......and it wasn't PG Rated for TDR :-laf

I went back , and watched the socket ,and ratchet episode. Looked pretty awkward #@$%! I used the same socket, but I use a ratchet with the swivel head, so it tilts just enough to slip it on the filter, goes on pretty smooth ,and yes that socket is snug.

At this point, I am going to have to learn this youtube or video thing, and put your curious minds to rest I promise I won't skip any parts, might take me a few takes to make it look right :-laf