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It's funny, I was all set to say, "come on, the 5. 9/6. 7 isn't used in rail applications!"

Turns out, yes it is! Maybe for small yard switchers? Anybody know?

-Ryan
 
It's funny, I was all set to say, "come on, the 5. 9/6. 7 isn't used in rail applications!"



Turns out, yes it is! Maybe for small yard switchers? Anybody know?



-Ryan



Yep, it's a stretch... Cummins in both applications. Is there a rail application using a Ford 6. 7L V-8 diesel or a GM/Duramax? There might be with a large displacement Isuzu diesel, but GM doesn't advertise the Isuzu origins of their 6. 6L.



Bill
 
It's funny, I was all set to say, "come on, the 5. 9/6. 7 isn't used in rail applications!"



Turns out, yes it is! Maybe for small yard switchers? Anybody know?



-Ryan





I think the Locomotive was powered with 5. 9/6. 7 per cylinder, times about 16:D



Nick
 
I think that the "B" is used in track laying and maintenance machinery. They picked up the market that was dominated in the '70's by the 2-Stroke Detroit Diesel engines such as the 3-53, 4-53 and 6V-53.



There is still a pile of rail equipment up here with 2-Stroke power. We rebuild a lot of them for the railroad as we are one of the few places left with the know-how to properly refresh them.



Was looking for the new Detroit commercial that we were shown in Vegas but can't find it. They must not have released it yet.



Here are a couple of DD15 Videos that you guys might enjoy.



High speed video from the assembly line robot's persective.



Detroit Engine Assembly - YouTube





Here is a longer one showing more of the plant.

The big CNC block milling machines that you will see use only water for lubrication.

They learned that oil would contaminate the waste and it could not be recycled. The water allows them to recycle the waste very easily.



Engine assembly starts a about the 2. 25 mark.



Also, the engines that you see running in the room with the engineers are hooked to generators. That way the power generated goes right back into the plant's power grid. Some of those test engines will run for months in there.



Detroit Plant And Engine Quality - YouTube



If you are ever invited to a plant tour, go. You will be impressed.



Mike. :)
 
I believe the point of the commercial was to illustrate the fact that Cummins engines in general are used in locomotives, not necessarily just the 5. 9/6. 7.
 
When they drop the can on the trailer and the truck pulls away just before they flash to another shot looks like the trailer/can is about to clip the pole on the passenger side. If not to DAMN CLOSE FOR ME
 
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The 1 ton wasn't needed and looking at it when they dropped the can on the trailer it didn't even squat. So safe to assume its an EMPTY. That's how I moved to MT for free. I went to the port bought a 20ft can chained it down to our BIG TEX 30ft tandem axle 8 tire trailer and packed our stuff in and transported. Got to MT emptied it drove to Missoula and sold the can for more than what it cost and it paid for my fuel. Did that 3 times but kept the last one as a tack room. Below you can see that its not that big a deal a 3/4 ton with air bags did it if ya load it right



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Cummins engines were never generally used in locomotives. As older units are rebuilt, they have to meet newer emissions standards- something that is difficult with an old EMD that can use 50 gallons of oil per day. Both Cummins and MTU are pursuing this market with their high-speed (1800 RPM) engines which are run through a 2:1 gear reduction to match the speed of the original alternator. Cat is also getting into this with their recent purchase of EMC, the former EMD which was sold off by GM when they began to fall on hard times.
 
I was reading that some of the newer repowers of the Electro Diesel switch engines were using a bank of small diesel engines so they could start more of them as more power is required. . I understood that they were using up to 4 5. 9s per engine. . I have not Googled this.
 
"Genset" locomotives as they are called generally use big-rig sized engines so their total output can match that of the original engine. Smaller engines were used in hybrids (where the original engine was replaced with enough batteries to equal the 600 volts normally generated), and they were charged by a small generator during periods of non-use. The gen-set concept seems to have overshadowed the hybrid concept.
 
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We have the genset locomotives at work that are equipped with three 15 liter V-8 diesels and the electronics are JUNK. Darn things hardly ever work right. Depending on the load it will fire up each engine one at a time for power needed. I can tell you that these things DO NOT pull as good as a conventional engine and constantly spin the wheels. Put them under a heavy pull and they will quit every time. They do have several of the battery powered gensets in Centennial Yard and never use them due to reliability and lack of power to pull anything.
 
There are lots of rails being powered by one Cat C-9 engine... . These are Hybrids. . Uses like 720V DC... Cat genset package to do the charging...

I hear there are a few with Deutz gensets as well. .
 
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Look close at the engine and you will see three stacks spaced a fair peice apart. It probably is one of those repower jobs three, Cummins gensets one of those experiments may not work well but it Still is Cummins powered and is legit! advertizing!!! Edit-- just remembered in about 1976 working at IHC truck dealership was sent to a Simplot fertilizer plant to check locomotive for oil leaks, turns out it had two NH220's (743cu. in. ) in it one front and one rear this was a switcher. So the mighty Cummins was used in locomotives, might not be a "B" but an older cousin Laurie
 
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