Greenhouse Gases

[Jumbo Jet]

By Nigel Hunt



LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Twelve states, including California and New York, filed petitions on Thursday in federal court in a bid to force the Bush administration to regulate emissions of greenhouse gases such as carbon dioxide.



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See here! Bush is responsible for the emission of carbon dioxide.



He needs to write a Presidential Order that states Democrats can only breathe during the odd hours of the day!



From everything I've read, with the economy in the toilet and fuel prices as high as they are, it should be a given that we have reduced the emissions from automobiles and factories.



Maybe higher taxes on fossil fuels will fix the problem!

 

[Texas Diesel]

cow breath

"... Despite the evidence, reports that cows can cook the planet are not always taken seriously. Researchers at Washington State and elsewhere complain they have become the Rodney Dangerfields of science, their work reduced to punch lines on late-night TV and comedy club acts... . "





http://www.physsci.uci.edu/news/entries/2003067.html



How do you answer this stuff :-laf ?

 

[illflem]

My feeling is that humans are thinking we're pretty damn high and mighty to believe our activities can change the earth's climate. The climate changed before we were around and will change long after we're gone. One volcanic eruption will put more CO2 into the air in one hour than a decade of human cars and cows.

We shouldn't be crapping in our own nest though, just makes life uncomfortable while we're here.

 

[Rman]

some years back Russia realeased (i can't recall if they were forced or maybe part of a treaty) information about some of their "incidents" and what not. One day on a siberian power plant i think it was, they released more radioactive material into the atmosphere than the rest of humankind has released in it's history. This was including ALL of the nuclear testing the good ole U. S. A. did to fight off the russians.



I found that to be truly astounding, that is a lot of material to simply right off as an oops. So Bill in a way you're correct, humans aren't the sole factor in the environment, but it is a bit foolish to think that we don't play ANY factor like you put it. It is the policy of this nation though, to consume products and produce products, this consumptions results in a bi-product that most in the scientific community deem unnecessary.



The rest of the world (not sure exactly how many countries)participates in an effort to reduce CO2 production, where our nation and our president takes no part in it. YET, some i'm sure are itching to begin, but right now we don't. The EPA does try and regulate, but we do not formally enter in the pact that the other nations have entered.



For the time being life may be good, but the forseeable future paints a grim picture for us all if the greenies get their way. We'll be riding horses and using hand tools again, funny how things change.

 

[Rebel_Horseman]

Riding horses and using hand tools? Hey that sounds like a good idea to me. Maybe the horse industry will thrive once again in this country.



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[NETim]

The question that comes to mind everytime this debate comes up is: How much are we willing to reduce our standard of living to achieve the results the greenies desire? There will be a price to be paid for reductions in greenhouse gases but that price is totally inconsequential to some.



Alternative energy sources get much press at the moment. How many of them are practical, affordable or even workable?



What we humans produce is a drop in the bucket compared to what Mother Nature cranks out each year. At the same time, we can't be stupid about things either.



Bush was right to bail on the Kyoto Accord. It was and is the work of "Big Science. "



Tim

 

[athompson]

How did things change so much in 28 years?

Global Cooling - Newsweek

 

[Texas Diesel]

Originally posted by NETim

The question that comes to mind everytime this debate comes up is: How much are we willing to reduce our standard of living to achieve the results the greenies desire?

Tim

If we moved back to the stone age they would complain about camp fire smoke and horse breath.

 

[illflem]

athompson, the 1975 Newsweek article is misleading. Scientists now agree that global warming doesn't make the whole world warmer, some areas get cooler.

This is due melting ice caps altering ocean currents.

There is no doubt global warming is real, whether humans have anything to do with it is another matter.



Good read here http://www.gsfc.nasa.gov/topstory/20011027heatisland.html

 

[athompson]

How can they claim that the satellites have shown a temp increase over the last century? We haven't had any satellites up that long to be collecting data.



When I was a kid EVERYONE, not just Newsweek, was talking about global cooling. The climate goes through cycles. I think it is rather egotistical to think that we're responsible.



Sure, we should "tread lightly" while we're here, but most of the green house gases occur naturally just because there is animal life. It's amazing that it's the plant life that requires the carbon dioxide to live. You'd almost think somebody planned it that way.

 

[illflem]

The fact that cows produce greenhouse gases makes a good justification for eliminating the vast buffalo herds in the 1800's.

 

[Rams-n-Hogs]

Just my personal opinion, but, isn't global warming what ended the Ice Age??? before humans?



Jim

 

[merryman]

Now just a dad-gum minute!



Ya'll know very well that if all those cave men had not spent so much time sitting around all those campfires, our good old ice age would never have been frittered away.

I think we ought to sue all their progeny!



Vaughn