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Centramatic Automatic Tire Balancers Group Buy

Group Buy posted in Classified for Centramatic balancers. Centramatic's will balance your tires, wheels, wheel bearings, brakes, rotors etc. They have been in business for over 20 years. A big following in semi-trucks and RV's. 5 year warranty. Centramatic's will prevent tire cupping and give you 25 to 50% longer tire life. You know how hard it is to keep the 10 ply truck tires balanced with the weights that fly off. See the web link for more info and ordering.



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Let me get this right. If I put these on my truck I never have to have the tires balanced again? Do you just remove the wheel and place them on the wheel lugs. One more question, do you then pry off the lead weights? Everything I read sounds to good to be true. You know what they say about that.
 
FAQ On Centermatics

How do they work?



By using centrifugal force the free moving weights (durametal and synthetic fluid) sealed in the balancer automatically distributes to exactly where needed, placing the assembly in equilibrium or perfect balance. When a sprung assembly is out of balance, deflection is caused via the springs or tire sidewalls. These free moving weights sense this deflection and move opposite the heavy points to balance the entire assembly, wheels, tires, drums, hubs, even mud, snow or ice stuck to the wheels.



Should the tires/wheels be pre-balanced?



In most cases pre-balancing is not required. If a vibration still exits after installation, a computer balance of the problem position can indicate a mis-mounted or defective tire, a bent wheel or other "out of round" condition, that balance alone cannot correct. Wheel bearings should also be checked and defective parts replaced.



What about mis-mounted tires or improperly seated beads?



This problem can be found by inspecting the area where the wheel and tire meet. A guide rib or circumference ring is molded into the sidewall of the tire. Measure the distance from the wheel to the guide rib (approx. ½ inch depending on tire brand), at the top, bottom and both sides, a variance in this distance indicates a mis-mount. A mis-mounted tire will roll out of round. This leads to erratic tire wear and vibration, regardless of how well it is balanced. Reseating the bead properly corrects the problem.



What is inside the rings?



Our balancing media consists of two parts. Part one is durametal, a hardened lead alloy similar to lead shot but 10 times harder. This is primary media, as a solid cannot change shape or form under centrifugal force. It remains exactly where needed under high speed. Part two, the dampening fluid is proprietary synthetic oil, designed to operate in the most extreme environments. The rings are about 1/3 full of this fluid. Its function is to lubricate, dampen vibration and help balance. However, a liquid alone would merely flatten out under centrifugal force at high speed and be forced back around the ring to an undesirable position. That's why we use the benefits of both solid and a liquid.





Should the rear duals and trailers be balanced?



Absolutely, the largest investment in tire dollars are on the rear. Typically, even when loaded, duals carry less weight per tire and are prone to pounding. This causes excessive heat buildup and excessive, erratic tire wear. Centramatics help cool the duals and one pair of balancers handles four tires, wheels, hubs, and drums. Rear drums are a major cause of imbalance on dual assemblies.



Can Centramatics help tires that are already cupped?



Depending on the severity. Tires that are severely cupped will receive marginal results. While tires that are slightly cupped will true out. The balancers cannot grow rubber back where it is gone nor will it make the deeper tread wear faster. One or the other would have to occur to be able to correct severe tire cupping.



How are they installed?



Simply remove the wheel, use the bolt holes as guides and reinstall the wheel. Steer axle balancers mount between the hub and wheel, while balancers for the duals mount between the dual wheels.



At what speed do Centramatics start working?



Most models start working at 20-22 mph depending on wheel diameter. This occurs long before vibration due to imbalance, which is at speeds in excess of 35 mph.



How many ounces of imbalance can they correct and how much balance media is used?



Balancer size Amount of media Correction potential

16"-19. 5" fronts 10-16 oz. 8-12 oz.

16"-19. 5" duals 18-24 oz. 16-20 oz.

22. 5"-24. 5" fronts 16-22 oz. 12-16 oz.

22. 5"-24. 5" duals 30-32 oz. 22-26 oz.



Balancers vary in model and size, the above are close approximates. Within each size are several models, each with specific specs and performance.



How long do they last?



We have balancers with 1,439,716 miles on them and still in good working condition. That's why we have a 5-year unlimited mile warranty and offer unequaled service.



What about alignments?



Alignments control the direction and travel of the tires. Vehicles must be aligned by creditable alignment facilities to exacting specifications. Premature tire wear and resulting vibration occurs if proper alignment is not maintained. Worn, loose or missing suspension components must be replaced. Centramatics balance the assembly and cannot correct alignment issues. Many forms of tire wear and poor handling result from mis-alignments
 
How About RV Trailers?

wcjp said:
I haven't seriously considered these. Now I have to talk with the wife. Look how much money I'm saving!

I'm seriously thinking about jumping in on the group buy.

Does anyone have any info on the use for RV trailers, or 5th wheels? Are they recommended? Can they also be used (when RV is not in use) on the truck. I think the part is the same number.
 
I called Cetramatic the other day to check on my order since they were out when I went to order them before. I told them that I was a member of the TDR and they went ahead and gave me the discount. Also found out that they were shipping them that day. Oo.



Ben
 
Balance Masters????

I called balance masters yesterday and this individual was saying that the centramatic is a product prone to failure and that they are just trying to catch up with balance masters. He also claimed that they do not work in extreme cold and heat conditions. I realize he was a salesman but does anyone have any experience with the balance master's. They are going to have a sale next month at $169 per pair so we are talking about a product that is twice as expensive. I really do not like the idea of the noise generated from the centramatic either but hard to swallow the balance master price pill. Any thoughts from TDR land???
 
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He also claimed that they do not work in extreme cold and heat conditions. I realize he was a salesman



I called them and had asked and was worried about cold weather more than anything. They are good down to something like -92* so that put me at ease. And heat . . I forget but it is higher than that of what I would imagined. Mainly so if there was a parking brake stuck or shoe dragging you would not have to wory.
 
I really do not like the idea of the noise generated from the centramatic



I would imagine that our trucks are loud enough to drown out the noise of little balls rolling around in a controlled ring. I suffer from CHS already, so if the Centramatics make noise, more than likely I won't be able to hear it anyways. :-laf



Ben



oh yeah, if you don't know what CHS is, PM me and I will let you know.
 
Spacers Required??

THe other issue that Balance Masters brought up was that I would need spacers on my 2001 in order to clear the disc brakes on my 2001. How BM would know this I do not know but has anyone had clearance problems with the centramatics's on a 2001. 5?
 
2002 DRW,



Aluminum wheels are the same offset as the OEM. The web page mentioned that you need to know for steel or aluminum.



The rears are actually a steel inner and aluminum outer.



Fronts are steel right now going to aluminum this summer.



Bob Weis
 
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I used balancing beads on my last set of tires and they didn't work so I was a little skeptical of the centramatics, but I gave them a shot anyway. Just installed mine today and I am very impressed. The truck has always had a vibration at about 72 mph and now its gone. Glass smooth at all speeds and no noticeable noise at low speeds. No regrets here.
 
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