Guns in trailer through Canada to Alaska??

[Gifford]

Can I bring a rifle with me through Canada on my way to Alaska??

 

[JFaughn]

Generaly no , but if you want to pay tax , buy permit whatever , and wait 6 mths. + then you could , they are realy hard on that if you try anyway .
Hand guns are even harder.
Find an FFL in Alaska and ship to him and pick it up when you get there .
Or buy one there.

 

[GHarman]

Firearms transportation through Canada

I recommend that you contact your local Canadian Consulate and explain your situation. There a lot of folks that regularly make that trip with firearms. The Canadians are aware that folks from the lower 48 go hunting in Alaska and are not adverse to you transporting your firearms through their country, politics notwithstanding. Another resource is the National Rifle Association. Proper locked containers, separate ammunition storage and Pre-notification of Canadian Border Authorities with declaration and inspection at the border are basic requirements. Contact the proper authorities for verification. Hope you get meat=) Greg

 

[Dieselnerd]

You used to be able to bring cased and unloaded long guns (no handguns) into Canada simply by declaring them at the border. I did it many times. A couple of years ago they changed the law and to bring a long gun into Canada now you need to purchase a permit/license before you go. It was $50 but that may have changed. I don't know how long it takes to get but you must have it before you cross the border.

 

[jelag]

I was at a gun show in Canada about 2 years ago... to transport a gun to the show each person had to fill out a form 2 weeks in advance with the route and the time they would leave the storage area, or gun club, when they would arrive at the show the guns were checked in by our equalivant of the ATF, on a live computer hookup... .



Any guns that transfered hands at the show had to go through the ATF guys, and get their approval... . before the sale... .



After the show each member had to submit a travel document to give the route home etc... . and close the travel document upon arrival home..... If you were late, didn't show, stopped for coffee, grocery's etc... . you were in trouble.....



I looked at the paper work to own a long arm in Canada, at the time the form was 22 pages long and had so many questions that no one could really answer... ... like " to your best knowledge have you ever been investaged by the RCMP for any action besides routine traffic violations" ... . so how would you ever know if the RCMP ever looked into your back ground... .



I travel to Canada 2 to 3 times a month... and have done so for the past 8 years on business..... I'd never consider taking a gun through Canada because of the hassle... . it just isn't worth it... .



BTW, I have a concealed carry permit and have had one for 20 years... . but when I'm heading to Canada I leave them home...



Just my 2 cents worth here...

 

[MVieira]

I wanted to confirm what Dieselnerd said. I'm going moose hunting in northern Alberta this year and we are driving up. The Outfitter, Ken Baker, said we will have to declare the long guns at the border crossing and then fill out a non-resident firearms declaration form in triplicate, have it confirmed by a customs officer and pay the $50 fee to bring them into Canada. He also said, "don't even think of bringing in a handgun". He also said we could get copies of the non-resident firearms declaration forms ahead of time by calling 1-800-731-4000 or at www.cfc.gc.ca under "visitors". I hope this helps. Regards, Mike.

 

[DIESELMAN]

The fee is $25. 00, Canadian eh, and don't sign your forms until they ask you too and they tell you they are watching, they are usually easy to deal with, but can sometimes be real p****s. The permit is good for 60 days.



http://www.cfc-cafc.gc.ca/info_for-renseignement/factsheets/visitin_e.asp



I carry a . 444 every trip through Canada.

 

[Dieselnerd]

The last time I drove to Alaska with a slide in camper, they detained me for about 2 hours. I didn't declare any guns, but since I was going to Alaska they thought I might have a hidden handgun. I didn't of course, I know better, but they took everything out of every storage compartment, went through my tools, looked all over underneath and when they had made a sufficient mess they said "OK to go now". We had to stop up the road and re-pack the mess they left.

 

[K5IP]

And if you happen to have a National Rifle Association sticker on your camper, Take it off! "Protected by Smith and Wesson" also a big no no.

Rog

 

[Jeremiah]

Canada

Remind me not to visit Canada nor spend any money there. However, it's a big country and can hold as many peaceniks and war protestors as we can send 'em. They'll fit right in.

 

[PTomlinson]

Remind me not to visit Canada nor spend any money there. However, it's a big country and can hold as many peaceniks and war protestors as we can send 'em. They'll fit right in.

Sigh... I'm not going to win this one, but hey it's Friday and I'm a glutton for punishment...



A) When I travel to the US with a firearm I have to apply to the ATF before hand to get permission to do so and that's OK with you, but if you travel to Canada you don't want to have to do the same thing???



B) When I travel to the US I have to have a passport or "approved" ID (they haven't figured out what the approved ID is yet), but you complain when Canada is going to do the same thing???



C) A US Customs agent strips my truck down to the frame for no reason he's protecting you from terrorists, but when the Canadian Customs agent does the same thing he's being completely unfair and targeting good honest Americans???



I own firearms, and I don't agree with all the rules and regulations that Canada has, but I work within them and the other firearms owners that I know haven't had problems with them. Could the Canadian government abuse the information in the gun registry, you betcha. But then again couldn't the US government abuse the Patriot Act information that they have been collecting on you?



Jeremiah have you ever traveled to another country with a firearm? Canada is actually one of the easier countries to deal with.



As for crossing the boarder, I do it two or three times a year flying and driving. I've had far more good customs agents, going north and south, than I have had jerks. If a customs agent is going to be a jerk it doesn't matter if he is Canadian or American, you are in for fun. They can strip and probe you, tear your luggage apart, and disassemble your vehicle down to it's lug nuts and you can't say a word. As a general rule you will have an easier time coming back into your own country than you will entering a foreign country, but it doesn't mean that you won't encounter an customs agent that happens to be having a bad day. That's why for me with it's always "no sir, yes sir, thank you sir" no matter what the nationality of a customs agent.



Sorry for the rant, but it pisses me off when someone talks about how terrible it is coming into Canada and bringing a firearm, or that Canadian customs agents are so much worse, when we experience the exact same thing coming into the US. As for the peaceniks and war protestors comment, we have our hawks too. And gosh darn we even have troops fighting and dying in Afganistan along side the American troops.



Paul

 

[Jeremiah]

Apologize

Paul, you are correct and I apologize. I had not thought about it this way. You won't lose this argument, not from me at least. I was only thinking of your country's prohibition against handgun ownership and comparing it with ours. We don't like states that prohibit or restrict handgun ownership. Canada, as an independent country, has the right to do whatever it wants in this regard. U. S. Americans (you're a North American, remember?) know there are criminals out there, not to mention terrorists, and we reserve the right to keep and carry to protect ourselves, not to mention prevent - if possible - another 9/11.



The answer to your question is no, I have not tried to carry a firearm to another country, nor would I try. I was only thinking of driving to Alaska, but even then Canada has the right to control who carries what on its highways.



However, we do remember that your country - by comparison - makes it relatively easy for terrorists to enter. Hopefully, you're doing something about that these days. But I must also say that we haven't been doing such a good job in that area either. The Department of Homeland Security is a joke, with most of the effort going into patting down little old grey-haired ladies at the airport.



So pardon my hasty and inopportune comment about Canadian border agents. A friend of mine who is retired from the RCMP wouldn't like it either. Carry on, my friend!

 

[PTomlinson]

Applogy Accepted...

Thanks Jeremiah,



The funny thing is that I have plenty of friends with handguns (all legally registered in Canada) and they didn't have any problems getting them. We have some odd rules about transporting them, but other than that it is actually pretty easy to purchase a handgun. Write an exam, pass and wait 4 to 6 weeks and you can buy a handgun. I actually have no use for handguns so I stick to rifles, which is kinda funny because I'm president of the local handgun society.



The other thing that I find interesting is the comment about how easy it is for terrorists to get into Canada. I honestly don't know how much easier, if at all, it is for terrorists to get into Canada than it is the US. I know the press in the states makes it sound very easy, and everything you hear in the press is true isn't it? What makes me laugh is in one US news story you'll hear how easy it is for terrorists to get in through Canada and in the next they are talking about the hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants from Mexico in the US, but don't mention that some of them could be terrorists.



Paul

 

[Jeremiah]

Southern border

You're correct on that too, Paul. The southern border of the U. S. is the 800-lb. gorilla sitting in our living room. Everyone knows it's there but most politicians have been ignoring it for years.



Mexicans perform stoop labor that Americans won't do - too hard and not enough pay. Now the chickens have come home and there are enough illegal Mexicans in this country (11 million) to have political clout. But the other 200 million Americans have identified them as the country's number 1 problem. So the politicians must act or be voted out of office.



I anticipate the first step will be to get the southern border under control, and then address the matter of what to do with the illegals already here. The current fighting is over which party has the best plan. Neither party wants the other party to come up with a solution, so the bickering continues. :-{}



Then there's the matter of which party can bring the illegal Mexicans into their own tent. Hispanics lean Republican these days but Democrats and their labor union buddies are working hard to make leftwing liberals out of 'em.



I don't think much of substance will happen until there is another 9/11 and then there will be the usual finger-pointing. In the meantime, Mexicans are in the streets waving flags and demanding to be treated the same as citizens.



Got room for me up there in the Yukon? Lemme bring my handgun(s) and I might move there!

 

[Big MAK]

Actually; here in the States we aren't Americans -- we're all North Mexicans.



When I travel to Canada I plan on mailing my Firearms ahead; read about that somewhere.



And I've been into Canada several times with my highly advertised NRA stickers and pro-gun slogans and the most trouble I ever had is they weren't happy about my bbq lighter fluid. rofl. No problems. Hopefully I'll never get one of those jerks (they're everywhere; nation of origin is irrelevant!).



Even in America we have idiotic views on Firearms and Handguns. . let's just say no way in hell I'll hike into the high mountains without a Handgun -- but that's illegal! I'd rather be judged by 12 then buried by 6.

 

[jwdeeming]

let's just say no way in hell I'll hike into the high mountains without a Handgun -- but that's illegal! I'd rather be judged by 12 then buried by 6.

Mark, that is true unfortunately in national parks. However, as a general rule, carrying an unconcealed sidearm in national forrests, state forrests or BLM land is not a problem.



Closer to home, we have "open space", usually managed by cities or counties here in Colorado. Those usually prohibit hunting or carrying any kind of weapon at all. So I avoid those places.

 

[Jeremiah]

For Big MAC and Paul

Big MAC, you can go anywhere in the National Forest packing whatever handgun or rifle you want. I shoot in the Pike National Forest all the time because it's handy - in my backyard, yet. I'm careful, of course, because there might be people out there on ATVs, but it's certainly legal.



Paul, I was curious. Can Canadians go into the woods and shoot too? I mean, I drive down to the corner gun store, buy whatever ammo I want for whatever handgun or rifle I have that day, and head off into the National Forest. I was curious about whether you can do the same thing.

 

[Jeremiah]

Acreage to shoot in

Fortunately for JWDeeming and those of us who live in Colorado, the National Forests cover millions and millions of acres. State parks, national parks, etc. , are minuscule by comparison.

 

[PTomlinson]

Yup, we can hunt

In the Yukon we can hunt moose, caribou, mountain sheep, mountain goats, bison, black bears, grizzly bears and small game. The Yukon is separated into 11 game zones, with up to 90 subzones. When you get your hunting license you are given maps indicating which zones you can hunt in and what your limit is for each animal. We can't hunt within city limits, parks, private property, or on First Nation (Indian) land. And you can get permission to hunt on First Nation or private land. Some animals like bison require you to enter a lottery to try get a tag.



There is no handgun hunting in the Yukon, just long rifle, shotgun, crossbow, and longbow. Because of our handgun transport regulations I suspect there isn't anywhere in Canada where it is legal to hunt with a handgun.



A hunting license for a resident hunter is $10 (you can shoot grouse, ptarmigan, rabbits, and other small game) and a moose tag costs you $5 more. Oh and to answer your next question, a hunting license for a non-resident alien is $150. Non-residents must be guided which usually increases the cost considerably but there always seems to be plenty of people willing to pay $10,000 to $20,000.



Paul

 

[Utah Willie]

Guns in trailer through Canada to Alaska

I went through Canada and into Alaska and back with a 12 G shotgun and a 45/70 rifle... ... no sweat!!! I went online to the Canadian site and found the paperwork that needed to be filled out and presented them to the customs agent as I crossed into Canada but he advised me to return to the American customs and declare the guns or I may not be able to return with them to the U. S. I did that and was checked thoroughly for serial numbers, etc. by the Yanks and the Canucks took one look at the paper and sent me on my way. Returning was at least as easy and was not in any way hassled by either customs agency. There is a fee for a permit for transport through Canada but it was minor... . $25 CDN as I recall.