Competition Haisley's Comp Puller Question?

[RyanB]

Well, it is getting very close to purchasing a clutch for my conversion and after all the posts I have made and things I have heard I think Haisley's Comp Puller is the one for me... I do still have to look into the SBC's Iron Giant. Havn't looked into the price tag on it but is it close to the same?



Anyway, here is my question. On there website it says that is not meant to be shifted over 2000rpm and when I talked to Patty there a while back she said its not meant to be shifted above it also. Now my question is after hearing this on the weekend and wanted a second opinion... ... ... ...



Could you pull it out of gear at say 3000rpm and then slide it back in under the 2000rpm mark? Im not looking at shifting quickly but am looking for something I can get some speed out of on the street seeing its a daily driver.



Thanks... Ryan

 

[zstroken]

You will have trouble getting the clutch to release over 2000RPM. It has centrifigal weights on it to help the clamping force at higher RPM's. Unless you are going to lauch at 5k I would imagine a street puller would be fine.

 

[RyanB]

yeah, thats what I was thinking because of the weights. You could have the clutch pedal all the way down and the centrifigal force pushing the weights out would still be clamping down the the disks. In theory thats how I see it but am just wondering if anyone has experiance with it.



Thanks again... Ryan

 

[Turbo Tim 1]

BigBadDodge had one and went to the South Bend Iron Giant because he said he couldn't get use to the weighted clutch, contact him he could tell you more.

 

[RyanB]

Turbo Tim- I see your running one of SBC's Duals... which one? are they all SFI aproved now or just the Iron Giant?



What are everyones opinions on the Street Puller? I will be pulling pretty well every weekend up here over the summer and want something thats going to hold up. I have a 12valve 215Hp and am going to be in the 600HP range with twins. I will also probably pull the dual disk out for the winter and put in a single just to add to both there lives and make it more winter friendly up here in the great white north!

 

[Turbo Tim 1]

I have the 3850 lb 12 cerametallic button clutch, there is another clutch between this one and the Iron Giant, it works good for me but I'm no expert by any means. I've only got 2 pulls on this clutch and 5 pulls total with my truck. I can say that yesterday I pulled on a wet clay track that was packed very hard, it was a 10,000 lb class so I had a pile of dirt in the back of my truck to make weight, I ran her up to redline and started letting out on the clutch, off to the races I was. This is a big time power track because it gets excellent traction especially with my almost new BFG Mud Terrains, I pulled in 3rd low with a 5 speed. It definantely worked the driveline but the clutch didn't complain. I ended up first, I think most everyone else had autos. I am very happy with it and was told it wouldn't be a problem with my goal of 500 hp.

 

[Got Smoke?]

I have a friend with a high HP 24V in Kentucky. He pulls very competitively around central Kentucky. He's been running a Haisley Street Puller since he started. Had to have it rebuilt once or twice, but the boy has 60+ hooks on his truck in 3 years! :--)



He usually places in the top 5 everywhere he goes to!



Ask Patty Haisley about him, his name is Jacob Bradford.



I personally have the same clutch as Turbo Tim1. I have 2 hooks on it with 4th and 3rd place finishes. I need more fuel and a bigger turbo! :{



Justin Williams (JWilliams3) on this website also has the same clutch as us and he has a wins with quite a few pulls under his belt in Indiana.

 

[BigBadDodge]

The Comp puller is definatly not a streetable clutch, good for pulling but not daily driving.



BBD

 

[DPS]

There are several individuals that drive comp pullers every day in 12/24v motors in central IN. If you are going to pull hard and freq. It is a better clutch than the street puller. The street puller drives really nice but suffers more wear when pulling due to less clamp load.



Truck pulling is a compromise of many things if you still drive your truck and the clutch is one of them. the comp puller is tried and true pulling clutch styled after what the big time pullers in tractors and trucks use. Hays, mcleod, Crower all use counterweighted covers for a reason.



www.dieselperformancesolutions.com

 

[JDailey]

I'm with DPS. You can drive it on the road, it's not real street friendly. Heck, I've pulled my gooseneck with another puller it with a comp. I've drag raced with one. Not a better pulling clutch on the market if you are using a stock transmission/bellhousing.

 

[fest3er]

... Could you pull it out of gear at say 3000rpm and then slide it back in under the 2000rpm mark? Im not looking at shifting quickly but am looking for something I can get some speed out of on the street seeing its a daily driver.

...

You can always shift without the clutch, as long as you aren't in a hurry to shift. Accelerate, pull lightly on the shifter, ease up on the go pedal, shift through neutral toward the next higher gear, and wait for the engine RPM to come down so the synchros will mesh, then shift in and accelerate again. With a little practice, you will be shifting as smoothly as if you were using the clutch.



Of course, this isn't a recommended practice, as it might just cause premature wear of the synchros and shift lever parts.

 

[RyanB]

Alright guys- Just wondering if anyone else has any imput on this. Its been a while since I posted this. I have ordered a Street-Puller but after talking to a few people I am begining to get second thoughts as to durability! I will be hooking no more than 12-15 times this summer. We have about 50% clay tracks up here, the rest are either real light loam or stone dust tracks (not good for the fresh paint!) I understand that most of the wear happens on the street puller from exessive slipping durring the first 50-75' or so but is most of this driver error or is it just the fact that there isn't enough clamp load? Are alot of guys purposly slipping it to keep the rpm up that might not have the power for the gear they are trying to pull in? The way its looking I will be just above 600hp and will be capable of more but its still a daily driver... for now.



The one other thing I have heard and main reason I am thinking of the Comp... is that its possible to get Van to make it into a tripple for future use therefore saving me some money in the next year or two when I have the dedicated puller.



Thanks... Ryan

 

[zstroken]

you won't be able to street drive the comp very easily. It is a weighted clutch so you will have a hard time shifting above 2000RPM

 

[RyanB]

you won't be able to street drive the comp very easily. It is a weighted clutch so you will have a hard time shifting above 2000RPM

yeah, I relize that. I am just trying to figure out something that will work. Are there many guys down in Indiana running them around on the street? Its my daily driver but I live in the country. Travel 30 miles to work each day one way, all highway/country roads, 2 stops. I am just trying to save my self some money for the future!



Ryan

 

[fest3er]

yeah, I relize that. I am just trying to figure out something that will work. Are there many guys down in Indiana running them around on the street? Its my daily driver but I live in the country. Travel 30 miles to work each day one way, all highway/country roads, 2 stops. I am just trying to save my self some money for the future!



Ryan

Your other option is to become like grampa: shift early and don't be in a hurry. Unless the trans is screwy, you should always be able to get it out of gear by easing up on the go pedal. Then when RPM has dropped, you can clutch it into the next (higher) gear. Downshifting is a whole other can of worms.



If you want to be able to shift quicker, install an exhaust brake. Then you just have to learn to coordinate your feet, hands, arms, eyes and two or three fingers (one for saluting and one or two for the exhaust brake ). It's not too much different from driving a split axle.



N

 

[RyanB]

Yeah I know how to drive without the clutch, double clutch, and all the fun stuff. Drive a Class8 truck all the time. I know if I am in not much of a hurry its going to be okay but when I want to lay into it its going to suck.

 

[JoshPeters]

If it was me... I'd take a look at the iron Giant. I've got an auto, but if I was running a manual..... I think that's where I'd go.



Josh

 

[Cumminsman]

shift without clutching it. you should be able to get 50-125 hooks (depending on driver) before a rebuild on a comp puller. it would be a better investment

 

[JoshWoodruff]

If you say you live out in the country and you only drive it to work every day not on trips or use the truck to haul or make your living, I dont see why you couldn't make it work. You will have to learn to drive it and shift it not the most user friendly but I think you could make it work. I have a web site I just got up and going I've been doing this several years and relized the web is the way to get out there and get your products out. I sell several different clutches dual and three disc and stand behind them. I want to take good care of my customers, and help in any way I can. Check out my web site still under construction if intrested. The Haisleys sell great clutches and you wont find any better people.



Josh Woodruff

www.woodruffdiesel.com

 

[DRadzierez]

I ran my comp puller from haisley on the street and it didnt bother me much at all. You have to adjust to it but with as many hooks as I make(up to 70 a season). There is no other clutch than Haisley.