Hand Throttle Control

[DPKetchum]

Any one given any thought to a hand operated throttle control to ramp up engine speed tp a max of 1400/1500 rpm with a cable. I have! Sure would be great for the six speeds and the 03s that don't have that feature. Been staring at the foot pedal and pivot etc. under the dash. Any thoughts?

 

[D.Thiele]

I have been away for a while, but hasn't someone come up with a way to do it electronically?

 

[Bill Stockard]

Manual Throttle

A 3/8" wood dowel between the accelerator pedal and the driver seat bracket works great for me. I use the power adjust pedals for the speed control. Not high tech or expensive, but very effective.



Bill

 

[DPKetchum]

Well yes I read about a solonoid thing someone sells. But it didn't seem very good quality. Also splice this wire,mount this,run this switch etc. The fuel pedal assy is a pretty big hunk of metal. Its in a straight line from the lower right corner near steering wheel with several really good spots to mount a pull/push cable. No wires,no splices,no fuse etc. Would be a lot quicker then carrying a stick pole and wedging it between seat,messing with seat adjustment etc. A simple push/pull black know throttle cable. Just trying how to mount it to the foot/fuel pivot pedal and make it safe,no binding etc. Heck the cheap push/pull cable start at $7. 00

 

[Dkuhlman]

I've seen these on a lot of commercial rigs. You want one that you can lock down. Some I've seen have a red knob you turn to lock the position. If I come across the brand I'll post it here.

 

[DPKetchum]

Or adjusted to were its a MAX of 1400/1500 rpm all the way out. I can see how to do it with them cheapy cable I bought at Auto Zone. I'm also trying to figure out how to attach it at or near the pivot and have nothing binding if you move the foot pedal.

 

[Jeff_K]

I did this already and it worked OK. I bought a couple nice pull cables ($4 each) and made brackets for one to work using the top of the accelerator pedel and pull it towards the dash. The other one I ran through the firewall and made up a couple brackets to hook it directly to the throttle linkage. This one was a lot more work trying to make up a bracket that allowed the cable to be "free" while using the accelerator pedal. Both worked about the same. The only problem I had was with the APPS or TPS calibration. I calibrated the APPS/TPS and everything would work great, you could adjust the rpm at about 25rpm increments, but this would only last a couple days. The APPS/TPS seems to lose its calibration and then I could not adjust the rpm very good at all. Adjusting the pull cable the rpm would go from 850 to 875 then shoot to 1500. If I backed the cable off just on click (which used to be 25 rpm) the truck would return to 850rpm. I could calibrate the APPS/TPS again and use it for another couple days, but it would always end up being useless again. I had the idea of making up kits to sell here for about $25 with all the brackets and cable, but after I could not get it to work I just gave up and pulled both setups out. Hopefully you can get it to work better for you! but I think with all the electronics on these rigs it may be a futile effort.

 

[DPKetchum]

Why did you have to fool with/adjust the TPS?Why the second cable through firewall? I'm thinking directly to the pedal assembly near pivot and where cable hooks. Maybe I'm missing something? Pull cabble/knob out it raises rpm/push it back it goes to idle. Seems like just need to figure out to mount it so if foot pedal depressed there is no binding. Trying to visualize how you did it.

 

[D.Thiele]

Jeff, I think I know what you are talking about. Just try to easily apply pressure on the go pedal and hold 1000 rpm. It wants to go up past it or back down to idle. It's hard to find and hold that perfect spot.



I had the APCM in my ford that gave me a charge protect mode, a PTO control, and a idle control function. They are used in ambulances, wreckers and such and it was a Ford part. Why can't DC come up with one? My caterpillar and most all new computer controlled diesels in the big trucks accomplish this function with the cruise control. Tried it on the Dordge and it dint work.

 

[Dkuhlman]

Electronic Control?

Anyone know anything about this setup? They have a listing for an electronic control for Dodge Cummings.



http://www.vmac. ca/throttle/index.htm



I also found about a zillion listings for T-handle locking throttle cables starting around $20. I've got to look at my setup as soon as it quits snowing!

 

[Jeff_K]

Sorry for the confusion DPLetchum, What I was saying is that I tried it two ways, thinking that the go pedal setup was causing my problems trying to adjust the rpm I ran the next setup directly to the throttle linkage. In the end both set ups worked the same... not very good.



The reason for having to mess with the calibration with the TPS is exactly what D. Thiele said above. My truck has a very difficult time maintaining a low rpm with the go pedal, wood doweling, pull cable, etc. It just can't seem to keep the calibration in the low end of rpm range. Driving around it is not noticable, but trying to achieve a little more rpm manually is just not very reliable.



I cured my problem by buying an exhaust brake and turning it on at idle. It is probably the best purchase I made for my truck (thanks mbaston!). A quick example is a couple weeks ago I started my truck at -25c and turned the exhaust brake on, the automatic high idle ramped up to 1000 and in 15 minutes the truck was at FULL operating temp!! With the brake engaged the EGTs pre turbo were above 350deg at 850rpm and about 425deg at 1000rpm. I was never able to get my EGTs above 250deg with my manual high idle no matter what the rpm (up to 1600).

 

[rbattelle]

Anyone know anything about this setup? They have a listing for an electronic control for Dodge Cummings.



http://www.vmac. ca/throttle/index.htm



I also found about a zillion listings for T-handle locking throttle cables starting around $20. I've got to look at my setup as soon as it quits snowing!

Looks like a really nice unit... couldn't find price/application data on their website...



-RYan

 

[DPKetchum]

COOL! I have e/mailed them and will be a typical consumer and call them tomorrow! Lets see if they do more then FORD! Thanks.

 

[Jeff_K]

for auto's only...



http://www.vmac.ca/mkt_library/application_lists/tc_application_list.pdf

 

[tgbol]

Some of the hard core off roaders use lawn mower throttle lever and cable mounted on the shifter. It is tight enough to hold the throttle at any speed.

 

[DPKetchum]

I can't or don't have the know how to open the file. Don't tell me its for auto trans only again!!! I bought a throttle lever cable. Just trying to figure out how to attach it to the under dash portion of the foot feed????And not bind etc. Plently of metal/lever down there to attch to and its a straight short shot to the right side lower dash near the srteering column.

 

[WMonroe]

The file says "98. 5-2003 (2003. 5 = Auto transmission only)" "2004 auto transmission only"

So does that mean 98. 5-2003 models it will work with the auto or stick and only the 2003. 5 and 2004 have to be auto?

Will

 

[Jeff_K]

I can't or don't have the know how to open the file. Don't tell me its for auto trans only again!!! I bought a throttle lever cable. Just trying to figure out how to attach it to the under dash portion of the foot feed????And not bind etc. Plently of metal/lever down there to attch to and its a straight short shot to the right side lower dash near the srteering column.

I used the lower right hand dash mount that holds the piece below the steering wheel on and on the top of the go-pedal arm there is a hole I used. I built a couple of brackets and it worked fine. I did not have any binding problems. I am not at home for another couple weeks, so I can't send you a pic. Let us know how it goes!! Hopefully you have more sucess than I did.

 

[jponder]

DP> I attached a thin peice of cable to the pedal and threaded it through the steering column. Then I attached another small peice to the 4 wheel shifter knob and put a small turnbuckle between them.



Works great, I can set throttle anywhere from idle to 2500+ I use as a constant throttle cruise also, really helps mileage.

 

[Dkuhlman]

The file says "98. 5-2003 (2003. 5 = Auto transmission only)" "2004 auto transmission only"

So does that mean 98. 5-2003 models it will work with the auto or stick and only the 2003. 5 and 2004 have to be auto?

Will

That's they way I read it but then I've got an auto anyway.



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