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Anybody know how people line up things to haul or pick up for other people when they are going on a cross country trip for something? For instance, I was thinking about driving from DE to Iowa to get my transmission installed, and I thought it would cut the costs alot if I could haul something out or back for someone, but I'm not sure where you find jobs like that. I've heard of a lot of people doing it though. May just get the transmission shipped now, but I'm still curious. Thanks. -Josh
 
cluckmaster said:
Anybody know how people line up things to haul or pick up for other people when they are going on a cross country trip for something? For instance, I was thinking about driving from DE to Iowa to get my transmission installed, and I thought it would cut the costs alot if I could haul something out or back for someone, but I'm not sure where you find jobs like that. I've heard of a lot of people doing it though. May just get the transmission shipped now, but I'm still curious. Thanks. -Josh



I thought about doing the same thing. During March 07, I will be traveling from Spokane, WA. , to Sacramento, CA. , then Yuma, AZ. , To Dallas, TX.

Hope someone post an answere to you question.
 
There are some free "haul boards" or whatever you want to call them-- People post stuff they need hauled and others bid on hauling it for them.

I'm sure there are some guys in here that are more familiar with them that can help you out.
 
Go to yesterdaystractors.com click on hauling schedule, you can get an idea of what to post. They have a need hauled and can haul. May not make a lot of money but prolly get a little fuel for the trip. :D
 
I got a load to Cali from yesterdays tractors. I plan on doing the same when I head back to the east coast
 
That would be involvement of transporting in interstate commerce (for hire). Legally requires a CDL license, commercial load/cargo/liability insurance, and complying with ALL the federal motor carrier regulations. Don't get caught, or you may be held liable for a myriad of possible lawsuits, fines, and a huge hassle from state/federal DOT administrators. It costs me a small fortune to operate within these guidelines, and they still seem to find ways to get more money out of me.
 
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Ragain said:
That would be involvement of transporting in interstate commerce (for hire). Legally requires a CDL license, commercial load/cargo/liability insurance, and complying with ALL the federal motor carrier regulations. Don't get caught, or you may be held liable for a myriad of possible lawsuits, fines, and a huge hassle from state/federal DOT administrators. It costs me a small fortune to operate within these guidelines, and they still seem to find ways to get more money out of me.



I concur with all except the CDL. Only required if you have a GVWR or GCWR (if a trailer is used) of over 26,000 pounds.
 
I concur with all except the CDL. Only required if you have a GVWR or GCWR (if a trailer is used) of over 26,000 pounds.

I'll bet DOT hears that one alot and :D

GCW of 26K or trailer GVW of 10K requires CDL. I see alot of pick-ups with g-necks behind the scales, they are watching you!
 
dberry said:
I'll bet DOT hears that one alot and :D

GCW of 26K or trailer GVW of 10K requires CDL. I see alot of pick-ups with g-necks behind the scales, they are watching you!



They have never laughed at me. I haul lots of trailers over 10,000 gvwr over the scales and don't have a CDL. With a truck that only has a GVWR of 10,500 I can and do haul trailers up to 15,500 GVWR. You need to check the facts before you post.
 
I was "bobtailing" my DTD 3500 past the N. M. San Jon scales 3 yrs ago only to have NMDOT chase me down & escort me back to the scale house..... first thing he asked for was my CDL & physical card then my logbook and all credentials. I believe these laws get interpreted differently state to state/ officer to officer. (maybe I could have avoided all this if my ICC#s weren't permanent). They are just after the revenue!
 
Just in case someone is reading this thread and is scared about needing a CDL. That phrase needs to be clarified. There are 2 different types of CDL's,a class B and a class A. The class A is the one that is needed to drive to over the road trucks for that there is a couple written tests,general and airbrake and a vehicle walk around inspection test and a driving test. The one that most need to do what is being talked about here is a class B with an airbrake restriction. And that is only if they haul that much weight. This only requires a written test and I am not sure if a driving test is required here but will probably need to show ability to do a safety walkaround inspection.
 
They have never laughed at me. I haul lots of trailers over 10,000 gvwr over the scales and don't have a CDL. With a truck that only has a GVWR of 10,500 I can and do haul trailers up to 15,500 GVWR. You need to check the facts before you post.

Here are some facts:

Commercial driver's license (CDL) means a license issued by a State or other jurisdiction, in accordance with the standards contained in 49 CFR Part 383, to an individual which authorizes the individual to operate a class of a commercial motor vehicle.



Commercial motor vehicle (CMV) means a motor vehicle or combination of motor vehicles used in commerce to transport passengers or property if the motor vehicle-



(a) Has a gross combination weight rating of 11,794 kilograms or more (26,001 pounds or more) inclusive of a towed unit(s) with a gross vehicle weight rating of more than 4,536 kilograms (10,000 pounds); or



(b) Has a gross vehicle weight rating of 11,794 or more kilograms (26,001 pounds or more); or



(c) Is designed to transport 16 or more passengers, including the driver; or



(d) Is of any size and is used in the transportation of hazardous materials as defined in this section.



Also as far as Class A,B and C are concerned,

§383. 91 Commercial motor vehicle groups.





(a) Vehicle group descriptions. Each driver applicant must possess and be tested on his/her knowledge and skills, described in subpart G of this part, for the commercial motor vehicle group(s) for which he/she desires a CDL. The commercial motor vehicle groups are as follows:



(a)(1) Combination vehicle (Group A) — Any combination of vehicles with a gross combination weight rating (GCWR) of 11,794 kilograms or more (26,001 pounds or more) provided the GVWR of the vehicle(s) being towed is in excess of 4,536 kilograms (10,000 pounds).



(a)(2) Heavy Straight Vehicle (Group B) — Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 11,794 kilograms or more (26,001 pounds or more), or any such vehicle towing a vehicle not in excess of 4,536 kilograms (10,000 pounds) GVWR.



(a)(3) Small Vehicle (Group C) — Any single vehicle, or combination of vehicles, that meets neither the definition of Group A nor that of Group B as contained in this section, but that either is designed to transport 16 or more passengers including the driver, or is used in the transportation of materials found to be hazardous for the purposes of the Hazardous Materials Transportation Act and which require the motor vehicle to be placarded under the Hazardous Materials Regulations (49 CFR part 172, subpart F).



These are taking directly from the FMCSR.

I am not trying to get in a pi$$ing match with anyone but someones opinions or experience are not always facts. Everyone considering Hotshoting needs to know what they are getting into.
 
Josh to clarify all the above so your not scared off. If you just want to do it 1 time. 2 things. 1- Make sure your not too heavy. 2- If hauling something and you get checked. The load is your personal property :D .
 
Haha... thanks for the info guys. I'll be looking into it further I guess. Kind of wanted to go get a CDL anyway at some point just to have it. I know one thing- the fines are HEAVY if you do get caught overweight. My little brother got slammed on the DE-MD line once pulling a skid loader and some other equipment. -Josh
 
dberry said:
Here are some facts:

Commercial driver's license (CDL) means a license issued by a State or other jurisdiction, in accordance with the standards contained in 49 CFR Part 383, to an individual which authorizes the individual to operate a class of a commercial motor vehicle.



Commercial motor vehicle (CMV) means a motor vehicle or combination of motor vehicles used in commerce to transport passengers or property if the motor vehicle-



(a) Has a gross combination weight rating of 11,794 kilograms or more (26,001 pounds or more) inclusive of a towed unit(s) with a gross vehicle weight rating of more than 4,536 kilograms (10,000 pounds)



Also as far as Class A,B and C are concerned,

§383. 91 Commercial motor vehicle groups.





(a) Vehicle group descriptions. Each driver applicant must possess and be tested on his/her knowledge and skills, described in subpart G of this part, for the commercial motor vehicle group(s) for which he/she desires a CDL. The commercial motor vehicle groups are as follows:



(a)(1) Combination vehicle (Group A) — Any combination of vehicles with a gross combination weight rating (GCWR) of 11,794 kilograms or more (26,001 pounds or more) provided the GVWR of the vehicle(s) being towed is in excess of 4,536 kilograms (10,000 pounds).







These are taking directly from the FMCSR.

I am not trying to get in a pi$$ing match with anyone but someones opinions or experience are not always facts. Everyone considering Hotshoting needs to know what they are getting into.



And that is what I said. Thanks for posting the facts that prove I posted correctly. :D
 
Ragain said:
I was "bobtailing" my DTD 3500 past the N. M. San Jon scales 3 yrs ago only to have NMDOT chase me down & escort me back to the scale house..... first thing he asked for was my CDL & physical card then my logbook and all credentials. I believe these laws get interpreted differently state to state/ officer to officer. (maybe I could have avoided all this if my ICC#s weren't permanent). They are just after the revenue!





Man they must have been bored, needed something to do!!!!



That's rough!!!!!
 
BILLVO said:
Josh to clarify all the above so your not scared off. If you just want to do it 1 time. 2 things. 1- Make sure your not too heavy. 2- If hauling something and you get checked. The load is your personal property :D .



Yes, of course. That'll fool them everytime. Just tell the poor dumb highway patrol officer who was born yesterday and just began enforcing the laws of his state today that you own the property you are towing. He'll apologize for pulling you over and let you go.



What will you tell the trooper next when he asks for the registration that proves you are the registered owner? "I forgot to bring it"? or "I just bought it yesterday and haven't registered it yet"?



Highway patrol officers and even scale operators have many years of experience and training. They deal with amateur truckers who try to fool them every single shift they work. They are not easily fooled.



Harvey
 
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