Headliner material

[Kalaehina]

Has anyone had a problem with their headliner upholstery coming down? When I drive with my window down and the rear sliding window open I can see the uphosltery starting to peel down at the front of the headliner, the windier it gets the more the material comes off. I stalled the process somewhat with double sided carpet tape but I don't like the bulky look it now gives the headliner. Anyone had to tackle this situation? Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

 

[rrausch]

I have the same problem in my '95. I am ordering some running lights, for the top of the cab and plan on taking the liner out then and re-covering it. My guess is that the problem is adhesive failure, i. e. failure of the adhesive itself due to heat, etc. The other type of glue failure is called cohesive failure, where the glue fails to cohere to one surface, but that's not our problem here. In my experience, once the headliner adhesives start to go it ain't long before the whole thing is flapping down over your ears.

 

[Kalaehina]

rrausch, man I just did my clearance lights on Thursday but I was not sure if I should pull down more of the material to put some adhesive on it, so it would have more to grab, because I was afraid it would not go back on to the foam the same way it comes off. You know how there always semms to be more material when you try to glue it back on, like trying to fill a hole in the ground, you can never get the same amount of dirt back in, also what type of glue are you going to use? Also clearance lights, have someone help you set up the template, then with the white screw inserts I think I would add a little silicone to help it stay put, when I did my lights the inserts just kept spinning with the screw, so I had to have someone on the inside hold a pliers around the shaft of the insert. This is all right for now, but when I have to change a bulb I think I'm going to have to drop the headliner again to hold the insert from spinning. Thanks for the input and any other advice you can give. And Happy New Year! (Actually it's one more hour away here).

 

[Oasis-3]

Headliners

Kalaehina the hot sun will break down the fome in a headliner and that is when the headliner starts to drop. Tape and glue will not do the trick the best way and cheepest way to repair it is to pull the headliner out of the truck. Pull the old colth off the board and go to a upholstery shop and by a piece of headliner colth and some of there spray glue and do it your self.

Use a wire brush to clean the old fome off your headliner board and fit test the colth then fold half of the headliner over and spray glue on the board and the fome backing on the headliner colth let it set for a miute or two then from the center out rub/press the two toghther then fold the remaning half over and do it again and your done

Look at the old one so you know how much to fold over on the edges.

cost about $25. 00

Hope this helps

Cliff

 

[rrausch]

Happy New Year!!! Man, that is SO TRUE about digging and filling holes! It is NEVER the same going back in as coming out. EXPECIALLY if you want it to be all nice and level.

I 've only had a couple of experiences with headliners, and neither have been with Dodges. Mom's 85 Monte Carlo started drooping the headliner, where the St. Christopher medal was pinned into it! So I just got some 3-M spray adhesive and stuck that sucker back up! I didn't hit it exactly right, and left a bunch of wrinkles in it and then a month later the WHOLE thing started flapping down over our ears! Very annoying! (I glued it all back up with the 3-M. ) The other time was with my Girlfriend's old '76 Jag XJ-12(Chebby powered). That one I had the sense to replace. I just ripped the old one out and bought some headliner material in the same shade and glued it back in with 3-M! It looked a little "bubbly" where I neglected to completely clean the old foam away from the cardboard, but overall it wasn't too bad... if you squinted... at night. The lesson I learned was to clean ALL the old foam away from the cardboard, and try to get EVEN adhesive coverage.

Truthfully, probably you can buy a complete headliner... but then we wouldn't have the fun of screwing around with it ourselves.

Maybe some members have some upholstery-shop experience they can bring to bear on this subject...

In regards to the clearance lights, I notice you have a '96. What part number did you buy? I have a number, 82205120, but I think it is for '98 and up. $68 from Mopar4less.

 

[Donley]

headliner

Dodge sells the headliner, Part #5ER01RF1
for around $110. Not a dificult job, takes about an hour. Just remember to take your time and keep your hands clean. I used light weight cloth gloves.
Good luck,
Donley

 

[Kalaehina]

Thanks Donley for the headliner part #, I may get to the point where I just give in and buy a new one, so I'll need that # when I go to the stealer. rrausch, that's the same part # I used to get my light kit, it came with the more bubbly looking lamps instead of the more low profile lamps on the newer truck. Not sure how to go about getting the newer style lamps. They would have looked nice, but it didn't really matter to me as much which one came with the kit. Good luck with the install... ... ... .

 

[bfreel]

The cloth for the headliner is bonded to foam. The sun/heat drys the foam over a period of time and the foam turns to powder. Spraying glue up in there only makes a mess. Take the headliner down, strip the cloth off, with a wire brush, scrape all the foam that is left off the backing. Be careful, some backings are fragile. Take it to an Auto Trim Shop/ Auto Upholstery Shop and have them install new material or buy it and do it yourself. I use 3M 08808 trim cement, doing one half at a time. Do not fold the material back on itself because it will leave a crease in it. Sort of roll it back over itself. Spray the material & the board, first one direction, then spray in the opposite direction, giving you two coats. Let it set till your finger won't lift it off. Have two squares of the headliner material ready to use smoothing the glued side down, Repeat on second half.



BFRACN

 

[illflem]

Originally posted by rrausch

Man, that is SO TRUE about digging and filling holes! It is NEVER the same going back in as coming out. EXPECIALLY if you want it to be all nice and level.

Don't ask me how this works but it is true, whether or not you have enough dirt to fill a hole depends on the phase of the moon when you dig it. Full moon is best. Springs also flow more at a full moon.